Using multiple music frames (or flows) and text frames on the same page

New user from Finale trying to figure out how to create a zine format tunebook with two separate flows or frames on same page with a text frame to annotate each. Every path I’ve tried leads to problems I can’t solve.

  1. in order to have two separate flows on the same page, it seems that I have to enable flow headings, instead of using tokens in a text frame. But flow headings resist formatting tweaks in terms of vertical spacing. (Also, there seems to be some bug that creates duplicate flow headings that are ghosts not attached to an actual flow. And sometimes a flow heading does not appear, even after I’ve entered the correct settings in layout options.

  2. I created a custom page template to do what I want. But I can’t seem to get an actual page to use that template. The problem is that some pages in the tunebook will have only one longer flow with text annotation, while other pages need two separate text frames.

I appreciate any suggestions y’all can offer.

You need to set the lower music frames to use the MA frame chain (currently they use MM)

Thanks. But that still doesn’t solve the problem. The page pictured above in Dorico is using the default template, not my custom template. I can’t seem to apply the custom template to the flows/pages I want to use it.

As show above, I could do it in Finale. I can’t seem to do it in Dorico.

Welcome to the forum, @Dosido!

Are you talking about the light gray lines with bar numbers? That’s the system track

In the Pages panel on the right, right-click on the page you want to change and select Insert Page Template change.

Here’s a quick example. I didn’t pay attention to spacing, just set up two music frames and two text frames in the new template, then inserted a page template change “From This Page Onwards”. Note that all of the music frames use frame chain MA, per @Janus’s comment.

I suppose you’d also have a page template with just a single music frame and text frame, and you’d switch to that one when you only wanted one flow per page.

Two flows per page.dorico (659.6 KB)

No. I wasn’t referring to the system track. When importing my Finale project as xml and breaking it into separate flows, Dorico would occasionally duplicate a flow heading several times but without an actual flow attached. Closing and reopening the project several times seems to have mysteriously eradicated the ghost headings. Two days ago, I was going to post a screen image, but now they’re gone.

As for the Insert Page Template change, thank you for helping me find that. Dorico terminology has been difficult to learn. And it seems that older versions used the Master Page instead of Page Template.

Figuring out the differences between layouts and templates has been a challenge. But now I think I’ve got it.

That’s exactly what I made. I was having trouble getting all my existing flows and pages to use it as intended. I had to delete a bunch of flows to get rid of a troublesome page that would not cooperate. I’m now rebuilding my tunebook and everything is working.

Thank you so much for your help.

Maybe it’s useful to (re)read the concepts of Dorico. Might help you when searching in the manual

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FYI Mr. TonH,
I read the conceptual/design material several times. I brought my questions and frustrations to the forum as, well, not a last resort, but as additional step. I was encouraged to seek help from the community. Not surprisingly, most of the the community has been graciously helpful.