Using WaveLab 12 Pro and Absolute 6 with older Cubase

Hi all

Is it possible to use WabeLab 12 Pro and Absolute 6 with older versions of Cubase, like for instance: Cubase 7.5 Pro?

I know that once I will upgrade to Cubase Pro 13 (from Artist 8), that I will be able to use the previous versions of Cubase, but how does it work with WabeLab 12 Pro and Absolute 6? Will I also be able to use previous versions of WabeLab and Absolute, that are compatible with older Cubase versions? Or did I completely misunderstand something here?

Hi,

Absolute 6 will work with no problem.

How do you want to use WaveLab in Cubase?

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Awesome!

I don’t know much about WaveLab, to be honest. But I would still like to buy it, learn it, and use it. The discount right now is very enticing.

I just saw this video and wondered to myself if something like this would even be possible in older versions of Cubase, somehow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NomFrCRC2mk

From what I understand, WaveLab is a stand-alone application, right? But according the the video it can also be used in conjunction with Cubase to get a few, special, “synergetic”, features. But the question is: Which minimum version of Cubase does it have to be?

Hi Martin,
Does this mean that if I wanted to use an Cubase 13 Pro & Absolute 6 license on say MacOSX Catalina 10.15, could I use that to run earlier versions of HALion and cubase to suit?
It says the SAM is supported from 10.14 Mojave onwards…

The Wavelab ARA integration shown in this video only works with Cubase 13 and newer. Needless to say, the combination of both pieces of software is extremely powerful, especially if you’re big into sound design and sample editing.

The first version of Cubase to feature any kind of Wavelab integration was Cubase Artist/Pro 8.5. This merely allowed you to “transfer” a file to Wavelab and then send it back to Cubase once you’re done editing it. While that’s also very powerful, it’s nowhere near as flexible as the Wavelab ARA integration found in the current versions of Cubase.

I would definitely recommend upgrading to Cubase 13 if your computer supports it.

You can find the system requirements for the software currently being sold by Steinberg here:

Unfortunately, Cubase 13 and Absolute 6 aren’t guaranteed to work on macOS Catalina (10.15).

The oldest officially supported versions are macOS Monterey (12.0) for Cubase 13 and macOS Big Sur (11.0) for Absolute 6.

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Hi Martin, that’s ok by me, I was wondering if I could run older versions of cubase and HALion and Groove Agent using the latest license for Pro 13 and Absolute? I know they can’t run but I believe you can run older versions using the newer license…provided of course that SAM and elicenser Control can run on that version OS.

Hi,

I haven’t tried, but… ARA is part of Cubase since version 11 (or so). So you can use any ARA component in an older Cubase version (which supports ARA), I expect.

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Hi,

With Cubase 13 license, you can use Cubase 12 only. Older Cubase versions were using another license system (eLicenser), therefore this is not possible. You would need Cubase 11 license to be able to use even older Cubase versions.

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Actually the versions prior to SX had fantasic integration. Just double click a sample in Cubase and Wavelab opened, make edits, close Wavelab, and the edits are reflected in Cubase. In C8.5 it was brought back however not as quick as like it was with just a double-click on a Cubase part. With ARA, that speed is back.

I think the main consideration today is that many years ago Cubase had pretty basic editing features, therefore a big need to use Wavelab. Today…not so much…maybe depending on your goals.

I have been using WL since version 4. It’s deep, it’s powerful, it offers lots of functions and features different than Cubase. To lean it and use it depends on your objectives. Keep in mind PG the creator, initially didn’t foresee WL as a mastering application, but instead editing. That was a long time ago and things have changed.

Some people think it’s mostly a mastering application which is part true. I would suggest it’s an application that provides a framework or foundation for a mastering environment with lots of built-in mastering features such as batch processing, all kinds of configurable error checks, and analysis, CD master, and Smart Bypass…just a few I often use.

Contrary to some new users thinking, if you do professional mastering, you will most likely purchase 3rd party plugs that are meant for the mastering environment. You will also most likely use external hardware with Wavelab.

Today, you need to decide if Wavelab provides any additional editing functions you would use that are not found in Cubase.

Comparing the Cubase feature “edit in Wavelab” to ARA in Cubase, PG the creator will add:
• No need to bother with releasing audio driver and activating it WaveLab, and reciprocally.
• You can benefit from the audio analysis tools and spectrum visualizations, right in place. Even if you don’t modify the audio.

Justin Perkins has probably the most comprehensive and meticulous tutorials on Wavelab. Spend a few hours, don’t worry about his bad fashion in shirts, then decide if you want to buy it.

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