I don’t know if anyone on the Dorico team has seen or been shown this video. I think the ideas presented in this video around the 27:55 mark make a lot of sense! I would like these features and it would make my favorite notation software even better!
There’s no video nor linked attached…
There should be a “Hey, you seem to be missing an attachment. Are you sure you want to submit?” warning on this forum. 
The user seems to be referring to the Tantacrul Dorico video again.
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I literally did put a link in! I don’t why it didn’t post!
I had one put it didn’t stick!
So it has been shared with the Dorico team before? I think Tantacrul makes a lot of good points.
If it’s theTantacrul video about Dorico, then it’s several years old, and the team did make such adjustments as made sense from that in Version 4 (I think).
But Tantacrul ignored a lot of functions and methods that existed at the time, so a lot of his criticisms are invalid.
I suspect the video maybe on a blacklist, because every now and again, someone posts “Hey, have you seen this?” 
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Tantacrul’s redesign suggestion would make it impossible to edit the links between parts and flows, making it impractical to remove a flow from a part. So it would effectively remove a feature from the program that people use. His suggestion there amounts to making the program less capable than it currently is because having the capability makes the UI more complicated.
The video was based on an older version of Dorico and they’ve added some help since which automatically appears when you make a new empty score that explains what the three buttons do for add solo player, add section player and add ensemble.
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This video is an utter joke. There’s been already infernally long threads about it, but to sum it up, the guy is now the head engineer of MuseScore Studio and has been very inspired by Dorico. Yet, instead of being honest, he takes on a strange decision: not reading (or pretending not having read) the manual and showing how things are not possible (when they perfectly were). The Team has created many things (like the Hub) after that video, so they did respond to some of the genuine points. But most of it is mere rubbish. I used to like Tantacrul. Now, I have many doubts about Martin.
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To put it mildly.
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It’s the most-watched video about Dorico on YouTube, by an order of magnitude. It’s also five years old. There was a small subset of Mr. Keary’s suggestions which the developers deemed actually useful without betraying their entire design philosophy. They implemented those 2.5 versions ago.
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I cannot believe I watched that video and still a few years after I fell into buying it (only Elements version very luckily), this confirms how many people can get caught.
Now there is even a new claim “More time for music”, clearly inspired by my comments of some days ago, it is ironic, isn’t it. They think it’s a smart move, but it will just infuriate even more people.
Nice job also to filter the link to that video on the forum, clever.
Tantacrul’s old video on Dorico probably resurfaced now because of his new video on Finale, I imagine.
Tantacrul’s big focus in UX design is people jumping in and using the program without using a manual first or going through a tutorial first. I think this came from his experience developing Paint 3D for Microsoft, which is the type of program where the big focus is on making it so easy to use that people can just jump in and start using it immediately without having to go through tutorials first.
He extends this philosophy to all other programs, which I think is where people start to take issue. His Dorico video does have numerous errors, as pointed out above. He was evaluating Dorico from his own perspective that everything should be easy to do without having to go through a tutorial or use a manual at all - like Paint 3D. So he didn’t go through the tutorials either himself, and ended up claiming that the program couldn’t do certain things that it could. When asked about that, he stuck to his guns and said that the program should make it more obvious that you can do that, because his ethos is that the primary thing is that the program must always be completely intuitive without having to read a manual or watch any tutorial video.
I think the Dorico team has a slightly different design ethos. They don’t necessarily want new users to be lost, but the power user features have to have priority. They’ve been gradually adding more and more help for new users along these last several versions where the program automatically displays tutorials that help, or other similar things. But the big focus, at least initially, was rightly on getting the feature set and solid foundation in there, with a focus on professionals who needed to use it. They were building the program from zero.
Most users who will want Dorico as opposed to a free program are going to be the type of user who really wants to learn the program well and isn’t going to be afraid to go through tutorials. Completely different than the type that would spin up Paint 3D.
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You all make really good points! My internal comment when watching was that “Dorico is still young and he’s using an old version. They still have room to grow.” I love Dorico much more than Finale and I’ve never used Sibelius.
am74, I don’t know why you bother to hang out here, just to trash Dorico with every post. Is it that fun for you to spend time here just to do that?
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@mducharme
I noticed that you repeatedly pointed out that Tantacrul was involved in Paint3D.
That was below the belt!
However Dorico has many praises here so there should be a counter balance. Nevertheless I barely write something (humorous) once in months.
Feel free to enjoy your app!
“Below the belt”? You’re reading something as an insult that was not intended as one. He talks about his involvement in Paint 3D all the time and how it impacted his design ethos and the types of things that he was looking for in good UX design.
I’ve never used Paint 3D aside from times I’ve accidentally started it when meaning to start regular MS Paint. Which is something I often use when I needed to do something simple-and-quick. I have GIMP too, but that has so many features and buttons, it is easy to get lost. If I need to do something simple-and-quick, I’m far more likely to spin up MS Paint, and only avoided Paint 3D due to unfamiliarity. Different programs for different purposes.
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