V Studio Voices

Seeing that a Discover Dorico session is scheduled for working with Dreamtonics V Studio, I wonder whether anyone has views about suitable voices from the rather large catalogue they have?

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I have Hayden 2, Liam (I believe comes free with purchase), Natalie 2 and Sheena 2. I’m pretty happy with all 4. They blend well when singing both harmony as well as polyphony. The 2 male voices do get thin in the upper registers (think Getty Lee, Jon Anderson et al.).

I just saw from their newsletter they have 3 new voices that are labelled with the genre ā€œOperaā€. Of course I deleted the email and now can’t find them …. oh well.

EDIT: Found the email. It’s 4 new voices, 2 having an Opera genre (mezzo sop. and baritone) but I think it’s only Chinese. Hard to tell as some voices can do multiple languages.

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Just listened to some, and am impressed. But I wish they had some classical voices, and even more so, choir ones.

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yeah I noticed one or two mentioned ā€˜operatic’ along with other indicators.

Yes, Kanru seems to watch the market as well, plus Dreamtonics has some superb 3rd-party providers like Eclipsed Sounds!

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Kanru?

Kanru Hua, the SynthV developer….:wink: :+1:

Guy is something of a genius… :smiling_face:

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Ah, aha!

After the Discover Dorico…

Galenaia is the most classical-sounding one, a lyric soprano, whose native language is Spanish. It is by Eclipsed Sounds. I guess lyric soprano/tenor is going to have the most crossover appeal.

What happens if you put English lyrics into a non-English voice? Does it approximate the phonemes?

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The primary target audience seems to be the US-market, the English-singing voices sound - besides the pronunciation – pretty pop/musical american (no offense). And the lack of latin, italian, french and german makes the software useless for me as classical european musican.

Nevertheless the implementation is very impressive.

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I would guess it would treat the words as if they were Spanish.

There is a little segment about this on the creators website. Also a bit of Galenaia singing in English, it somewhat worked, but I was not convinced. It could also be because of the operatic settings.

could you elaborate on ā€œnot convincedā€?

I meant that I am not able to hear clear/proper English, but hopefully I am wrong cause I like that voice a lot. I wish they had a ā€œLiteā€œ version as Solaria does, so I could try it out.

Best, robert.

EDIT….. Oh great, there is a 7 days demo of Galenaia on Dreamtronics website. Going to check it out.

I thought that was a great ā€˜Discover Dorico’.

There’s a lot of potential there, and I hope classical and/or choir voices become available at some point - along with the ability to pass dynamics into Synthesizer V, and hopefully eventually some kind of ARA type interface to allow live updates in Dorico to pass through and be rendered automatically.

Listening to the Elgar was very revealing - although the pop style of the voices worked OK with ā€˜Hark the Herald’, with the Elgar it was very jarring!

For me, it’s one to watch and wait, but in a year or two things may be very different. Looking forward to it!

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Yeah, Elgar hits Broadway! It is startling, actually, how much of a difference that pop affect makes.

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That really surprised me. Perhaps someone actively using Synthesizer V can clarify:

  • Does it ignore the exported dynamics entirely or
  • are we speaking about some subtlety in their interpretation?

I’m not using it, but John made it pretty clear that no dynamics whatever are picked up by Synthesizer V from the xml file it imports from Dorico.

They may well fix that in future as the information they need is in the XML.

OK thanks I’m sure you’re right, I just quite couldn’t believe my ears.

It just seems strange that so much rocket science can be tripped up by so fundamental an omission.

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Yes, it is pretty fundamental!