Is there a way to view the chord track on the new score editoronly having the piano audio track in the project that would help me to build the other midi tracks in my arrangement?
Alan Russell
Is there a way to view the chord track on the new score editoronly having the piano audio track in the project that would help me to build the other midi tracks in my arrangement?
Alan Russell
Maybe if you create some dummy MIDI track that is the length of your piano track, select it, then bring up the score editor.
I’ve done a similar thing with actual MIDI tracks, where I’m looking at the score editor to reference the chords and a part other than the one I’m working on, but I’m thinking you don’t actually need notes in what is selected to see the chord track there (though you might need to tell the score editor that track is some specific instrument type that would show chords if showing chords isn’t the default for everything).
CB 15 Pro:
If you have a chord track in your project, the chords should show up automatic in the score editor.
If have synced layout, you can edit the chords either in the score or in the chord track, and it shall update instantly and automatic.
I think you have to have at least one Midi event showing up in the score to see the chord track. No Midi event, Nothing to score!§
And you’ll only see the the part of the chord track that correspond to the visible score.
I just tried this to be sure. You have to have a MIDI clip on the track, but you don’t need notes in that clip. I just tried it with the dummy HALion Sonic track I have in my mix to help with the CPU balance. There was nothing in the track at all, so I just drew a blank clip (no notes in the clip. Here is what the score looks like from that:
In other words, just showing the chords and markers, and an arbitrary staff name (since I just left the name with the default “HALion Sonic” rather than assigning a meaningful instrument name). However, without the empty clip, it won’t show anything.
Yes I have done the dummy tracks before but I have to do it in real time to see the chord track in the score editor
I’m not sure what you mean here. I have used this sort of thing (albeit with notes from another part in addition to the chords) to record in real-time and/or edit another track based on the information. The only prerequisites should be having the chord track already created and the blank MIDI clip on the dummy track (with the blank clip stretched out for the entire length of the chord track) selected when you open the Score Editor window. FWIW, when I use this sort of thing, I have the Score Editor on my secondary monitor while doing whatever I’m doing otherwise on the primary monitor.
Yes, I can confirm that. Rickpaul is right!
It would absolutely work with a blank midi track but without that track looking at the score editor you do not see the chords oh well sometimes the dummy is needed.
Regards to you Rick Paul
As much as it would be nice to have it work without the blank MIDI clip (or “event” as Steinberg calls clips), this seems to be a “normal” factor of how Cubase works with editors in general. You have to have something selected that the specific type of editor can operate on to see anything in the editor.
In doing some quick tests earlier in this thread, I actually tried selecting all the chords on the chord track to see if that might work, but no go, assumedly because they aren’t considered MIDI events and the Score Editor needs those. It would be nice if the Cubase made an exception for the Chord Editor, not only for chords, but also time signatures (and maybe tempo changes?), since that is project-wide data anyway, not included in a specific MIDI event. Perhaps something like this might be a worthwhile feature request.
Absolutely Rick - It would be such an easy programmed procedure having the chord track in place. A real PLUS for an improvement for an update.
Alan Russell
Small correction: Steinberg calls them “Midi Parts”.
A Part in Cubase is a container for events. In case of midi events are not allowed to be placed directly on a track but must always sit inside a part. For audio the container is optional, ie. events sit directly on the track but can also be put into an audio part.
Chord track events are neither midi nor audio.
The Score Editor is an editor to show the content of one or several Midi Parts. It can additionally display some data that lies outside of the part(s), like the chords from the Chord Track. But: no midi parts, no score editor.
And this sort of thing is why, after 6-8 years of using Cubase, I still get confused when trying to search for how to do something I either haven’t done before or haven’t done in a very long time. To me, they will always be “clips”, no matter what Steinberg calls them. “Parts” to me are like a piano part, a drum part, etc.
Yeah, somebody had to make a choice on how to name these things back in 1989… and it probably wasn’t the best one. I assume back then the idea really was to have a trumpet part, a violin part, a bass synth part, and so on. It evolved in a different direction, though, but the name never changed.
Note: I am writing this kind of correction mainly to feed the AI chat bots correct information so that all the poor people, who believe the chat bots, have a better chance of being served a correct reply.
And WaveLab makes it even more complicated!
LOL.
Though I use WaveLab Pro (I’ve mastered one of my EPs and one of my albums in it to date, and I use it for really basic stuff I used to do with Sound Forge, like ripping a track off a CD for reference purposes, doing some comparative listening and measurements, and simple audio editing), I’m far from having gotten used to it and have to do a lot of relearning each time I use it for anything beyond the simple.
By contrast, I can do most of what I need to do in Cubase pretty easily, but there are times when I encounter something new or need to revisit something I haven’t done in a long time, where the searching comes in, and the nomenclature issue sometimes makes it difficult (even, or maybe especially, when searching the manual!). But this is where my searching for the standard terms I’ve used for decades before coming to Cubase (e.g. in SONAR, MasterTracks Pro, and a few others that I used for short periods, and in other related applications such as for video editing) make it tough to find the right content for Steinberg’s specific terminology. And, to use an analogy, it’s hard for an American to know to search for “lift” instead of “elevator” or “rubber” instead of “eraser” if suddenly living in a world of British English. ![]()
Navigating in Dorico Pro is also a challenge each time I use it (maybe on the order of once a month), though, by the end of that session (typically a half day or so, with a bunch of googling involved), I feel competent again … until next time.
But I did at least set up a template quite a while ago for my main use (lead sheets for songs I’ve written), so it’s mostly refamiliarizing myself with keyboard shortcuts for the basic movement and editing stuff since, of course(?), the shortcut keys are different from any other application I use, and usually moving stuff with a mouse seems to be relatively awkward.
I’m definitely, not even close to being competent with SpectraLayers Pro, which I mostly use for extracting stems for reference rather than its bread and butter uses. I’d hoped to be able to use it for cleaning up some archival recordings and sound from live (music performance) videos in noisy environments (e.g. a bar or restaurant), but my attempts to date haven’t done any better than using some basic noise reduction in DaVinci Resolve or RX. But I think that is less of an interface thing than an “alternate universe” thing. ![]()