# VST Midi plugin wrapper - to use VST midi plugins as Cubase midi inserts **URL:** \ **Category:** Cubase\ **Tags:** feature-request, cubase-9\ **Created:** [July 16, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520 "2017-07-16T05:10:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Larioso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@Larioso](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Larioso)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/1 "2017-07-16T05:10:31Z")
There is a range of strict VST midi plugins out there - Piz Midi plugins to mention one set of a couple of dozen useful stuff for midi. But these has to be routed like one synth to another, and does not list among midi inserts in Cubase. If Steinberg made a VST MA(I think midi insert format for Cubase) plugin listed among midi plugins available - that take normal VST with midi in and out - what a boost. This would make manipulating midi a treat in comparison to now. And you can also add your arpeggiators to normal midi insert part in Cubase. As most of Piz plugin are gui-less - this wrapper need to support gui-less plugins, as most hosts for plugins do. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Mr\_Master](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Mr_Master)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/2 "2017-07-16T08:12:14Z")
+1 Here’s another interesting new midi VST plugin: > **[Kameleono VST/AU - Professional MIDI Multi-FX Plugin by MIDIMood](https://www.midimood.com/product/kameleono/)** > > Pattern Based Arpeggiator - Unlimited Sequencer - Note Gate - Note Hold - Realtime Quantizer - Build-in Synth - MIDI Sidechaining ---
**Author:** ![Accel0001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Accel0001](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Accel0001)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/3 "2017-07-17T19:17:01Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![IRB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b77776/32.png) [@IRB](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/IRB)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/4 "2017-07-21T14:32:35Z")
1 UP! ---
**Author:** ![ceanganb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@ceanganb](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/ceanganb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/5 "2018-01-07T17:27:53Z")
+100, bump! ---
**Author:** ![MikeWK](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/mikewk/32/663_2.png) [@MikeWK](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/MikeWK)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/6 "2018-01-14T09:40:06Z")
+1 Since years I wondered myself that there is no possibility to insert 3rd party midi plugins in the midi channel. It requires requires some kind of routing to use them. That works but is not smart. ---
**Author:** ![NoMad92](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nomad92/32/1051_2.png) [@NoMad92](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/NoMad92)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/7 "2018-01-14T12:19:48Z")
+1 +1 +1 +1 and we need a “new” autolfo … more like the cableguys midishaper, way more option (besides even havin more shapes than autolfo) ---
**Author:** ![BenjaminWynn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/benjaminwynn/32/124347_2.png) [@BenjaminWynn](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/BenjaminWynn)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/8 "2018-01-24T05:25:20Z")
Yes, +1000. Reaktor just updated to allow it to be an AU Midi effect in Logic and I’m super jealous! VST should have the same! ---
**Author:** ![BenjaminWynn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/benjaminwynn/32/124347_2.png) [@BenjaminWynn](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/BenjaminWynn)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/9 "2018-03-21T22:13:13Z")
Just bumping this again. I so dream an enhanced VST spec to include MIDI FX plugins. ---
**Author:** ![saxmand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@saxmand](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/saxmand)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/10 "2018-11-26T00:57:02Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![InLightTone](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/inlighttone/32/1015_2.png) [@InLightTone](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/InLightTone)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/11 "2018-11-26T03:36:46Z")
+1 PLEASE! ---
**Author:** ![bendy303](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bendy303](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/bendy303)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/12 "2018-11-30T13:42:34Z")
+10000 ---
**Author:** ![treeper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@treeper](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/treeper)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/13 "2019-01-15T01:40:33Z")
+1 PLEASE!!! ---
**Author:** ![soulavery](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/soulavery/32/143640_2.png) [@soulavery](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/soulavery)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/14 "2019-07-02T13:58:18Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![jaramogi\_miw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@jaramogi\_miw](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/jaramogi_miw)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/15 "2019-09-02T18:27:33Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Elf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/the_elf/32/278_2.png) [@The\_Elf](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/The_Elf)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/16 "2019-09-08T11:22:29Z")
+1! I’ve just bumped into this problem. Why can’t I use a VST MIDI insert as a MIDI insert?! ---
**Author:** ![chocobo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/chocobo/32/148487_2.png) [@chocobo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/chocobo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/17 "2019-10-24T13:00:14Z")
I wanted to record educational content showing midi key presses, found useful midi visualizing plugins, but couldn’t use it. ---
**Author:** ![Chikitin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/chikitin/32/93745_2.png) [@Chikitin](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Chikitin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/18 "2020-03-11T17:20:50Z")
+10^100 This is very useful. ---
**Author:** ![Chikitin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/chikitin/32/93745_2.png) [@Chikitin](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Chikitin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/19 "2020-03-11T17:42:38Z")
> [@Jazzius](#): > > +1 > > Here’s another interesting new midi VST plugin: > > [Kameleono VST/AU - Professional MIDI Multi-FX Plugin by MIDIMood](https://www.midimood.com/product/kameleono/) I think using the chord pad patterns one can achieve the patterns ones in Kameleono. Please correct me if I am wrong! ---
**Author:** ![Among\_the\_Hung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@Among\_the\_Hung](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Among_the_Hung)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520/20 "2021-02-01T00:27:39Z")
Definitely would like this functionality [Next page](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-midi-plugin-wrapper-to-use-vst-midi-plugins-as-cubase-midi-inserts/94520.md?page=2)