Wavelab 12 Layout is all over the place Randomly at launch

Hello Philippe,
It started a couple of months ago and it’s a random issue. I can’t understand at all what might be causing it.
I’m using 3 monitors and I have my layout saved (even saved it with several different names) and I also have it saved as my default layout.
From time to time, when launching Wavelab Pro 12.0.51, I get a messy layout with everything all over the place. Even when I select a saved preset or restore the default layout, it doesn’t respond and stays in that mess, and I have to put everything in its place which is ultra annoying.
Is this a software bug, or should I take some other action inside wavelab in order to prevent this?
In case you need some more info, I’ll be available to it.

Thanks a lot

Mac Studio M2 Max - 32 Mb Ram - MacOs 15.4


I ignore why this could happen. Taking in consideration your description, it could be interesting to try the following next time is happens:

  1. Quit WaveLab

  2. There is this folder:
    /Users/YourName/Library/Preferences/WaveLab Pro 12/Presets/WindowLayout4/
    Inside it, erase the file “__last”

  3. Launch WaveLab again.
    This file “__last” store the current layout. If it is not present, WaveLab restores the default layout.

Thanks a lot for your tip.
I will try it, and let you know the result.

Hello Phillipe,
I’ve followed you suggestion but I didn’t get any new results.
When I launched Wavelab in the next morning, I got my workspace all over the place. Then I did what you told me to do.
I quitted Wavelab and deleted the “_last” file, in the preferences folder. I launched Wavelab again and it didn’t restore the default layout. I tried to restore the layout on the menu option, but nothing happened. I selected my saved preset, but again nothing happened.
Annoyingly, I had to restore everything by hand.
During the day something weird happened. Usually this issue would happened only the day after shutting down everything. But strangely today it happened after quitting Wavelab for 10 or 15 minutes (without shutting down the computer). And once again it didn’t restore the default layout on the next launch.
I should remind you that this is a pure random issue. It doesn’t happen everyday.
I’ve also noticed that there are more people experiencing the same issue.
I’m getting to a dead end in what concerns to this matter. I really need to get this solved as it’s being very frustrating.
Any help would be appreciated.

It would be interesting to have some screeshots of what you call “messy layout with everything all over the place”. Maybe that can give me a hint. Because now, I have not got any.

I would suggest this:

  1. quit WaveLab and delete the file:
    WaveLab Pro 1/Preferences/General.dat
    This resets some settings but does not alter your presets and key shortcuts.
    See if that makes a difference.

  2. If you get your messy setup again, close everything must your main workspace, and try to restore your default layout from this situation.