Hello Philippe,
It started a couple of months ago and it’s a random issue. I can’t understand at all what might be causing it.
I’m using 3 monitors and I have my layout saved (even saved it with several different names) and I also have it saved as my default layout.
From time to time, when launching Wavelab Pro 12.0.51, I get a messy layout with everything all over the place. Even when I select a saved preset or restore the default layout, it doesn’t respond and stays in that mess, and I have to put everything in its place which is ultra annoying.
Is this a software bug, or should I take some other action inside wavelab in order to prevent this?
In case you need some more info, I’ll be available to it.
Hello Phillipe,
I’ve followed you suggestion but I didn’t get any new results.
When I launched Wavelab in the next morning, I got my workspace all over the place. Then I did what you told me to do.
I quitted Wavelab and deleted the “_last” file, in the preferences folder. I launched Wavelab again and it didn’t restore the default layout. I tried to restore the layout on the menu option, but nothing happened. I selected my saved preset, but again nothing happened.
Annoyingly, I had to restore everything by hand.
During the day something weird happened. Usually this issue would happened only the day after shutting down everything. But strangely today it happened after quitting Wavelab for 10 or 15 minutes (without shutting down the computer). And once again it didn’t restore the default layout on the next launch.
I should remind you that this is a pure random issue. It doesn’t happen everyday.
I’ve also noticed that there are more people experiencing the same issue.
I’m getting to a dead end in what concerns to this matter. I really need to get this solved as it’s being very frustrating.
Any help would be appreciated.
It would be interesting to have some screeshots of what you call “messy layout with everything all over the place”. Maybe that can give me a hint. Because now, I have not got any.
I would suggest this:
quit WaveLab and delete the file:
WaveLab Pro 1/Preferences/General.dat
This resets some settings but does not alter your presets and key shortcuts.
See if that makes a difference.
If you get your messy setup again, close everything must your main workspace, and try to restore your default layout from this situation.
This has been an issue with WaveLab forever, the internal layout system is bugged, and even if I haven’t touched the OS window layout between sessions, metering windows will go haywire randomly at startup on occasion for no apparent reason.
Options (Mainly MS Windows):
You can always just hard reset your system without closing WaveLab and that typically works.
In older versions, copying the entire folder as a backup (Users<yourfolder>\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg on Windows and I believe the Users/YourName/Library/Preferences/WaveLab Pro 12 on Mac) and pasting it back in when needed may do the trick but I haven’t tested with version 12 as I have simply resorted to the next item)
Use Sizer (Windows only, there are a myriad of similar window positioning tools for Mac though), this is now my go to solution and I have my main 7 metering windows set with shortcuts from ctrl+win+F6 through F12) - see brianapps <.net/sizer4/>
Direct links are not allowed on this forum of course.
FWIW, the only time I have ever seen something similar on any of our set ups was when I changed a monitor set up. How many monitors are you running and what are they (TV’s for example are known to present issues).
I also experience the same on my Mac Studio M1 Max. I have 4 monitors and everytime I power on my MAC, then open Wavelab Pro (12 or 13), The windows all move to the main display. I even tried closing all windows then restarting Wavelab, then click on my saved Workspace, and still the same problem. I just purchased the upgrade to 13, hoping this was fixed. This does not occur in any other apps
FWIW, myriad applications with multi-window/undocking modes function differently, and behave differently across macOS versions. This happens with Bitwig and Digital Performer as well, and even with Ableton depending on how you use multi-windows.
I just use Keyboard Maestro to activate and move multiple windows in succession upon app launch to put everything exactly where I want it. It’s got a wee learning curve, but for $30 its overall feature-set is remarkable. It might not be worth it for just one app, but enough applications didn’t provide the precise control I wanted to justify it. I now use it for all manner of system-based automation, macros, and scripting - it even interfaces directly with Metagrid.
