That’s a shame… I can’t really be doing that - too many opportunities for mistakes to happen. I need to work quickly with many people in the room waiting… Would be good to have the transpose section in keys rather than intervals. Or fix the intervals so that Dorico knows that F# major is the same as Gb major, etc.
Thanks for that, but it’s the frame breaks that seem to be causing my problem. When I select propagate from, for instance, Keyboard I, which doesn’t have a frame break on the 1st downbeat of the flow, a frame break gets automatically added to it and all the other parts I’m propagating to. Also any system break that then appears at the top of a new page on the other parts is now turned into a frame break. The upshot is that if I now decide I want more system breaks on a page, the systems potentially bunch up rather than sticking to the systems-per-page section in the layout options
Somewhere in Dorico there is an option for Rehearsal Marks to always start at the beginning of a system.
This would automate a part of your process.
As I am not on my computer, I can’t tell you exactly, where to look for it (it might be in Layout Options).
[edit] sorry, I have now just tried to find it - it does not exist (yet?…)
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That would be brilliant if it is there. Even more brilliant if I can have rehearsal marks that say ‘verse’, ‘chorus’, etc.
At the beginning of this old video (2:30 onwards) there is an additional way of setting up sections quickly (using multi-bar rests temporarily):
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Maybe I’m dense, but you want this:
And do this:
Done? Looks like it to me!
But again, I might not quite get it, especially with the Bb later…
Cheers,
Benji
Well, it’s sort of a workaround if you do it that way. For example, if I have a song that starts in C major then modulates to Db major for the last chorus and I then need to transpose the whole song up a semitone (i.e. starting in Db and modulating to D), I can’t be doing the first section and then the second section separately. Ideally I’d select the entire score (Apple+A), go to the transpose window and choose an option to transpose the entire song, including the key changes.
I don’t want to be one of those people who says ‘but in Finale…’ but, in Finale I’d go to the key signature tool, select the whole score, double click and it would present me with a window to select what key I’d like the piece to be in, and there would be a checkbox to say transpose all keys proportionately. I use this all the time and I need to do it quickly as the band, the artist and TV production team are all standing there waiting…
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I don’t think so. There is an option to have a Rehearsal Mark that exists at the beginning of a system to be aligned with the system start (Engraving Options>Rehearsal Marks>Horizontal position). But that still allows RMs to exist anywhere else. IT doesn’t force all RMs to be at the start of a system.
Yes Janus, you are right.
I was just trying to find it without success… must have had it confused with the option how to position it in relation to the bracket…
I’m beginning to think we should pin a thread with a list of specific missing features for Finale switchers. We are getting the same questions a lot, the answers to some of which have changed over the years as features have been introduced. And new users are posting to a lot of old threads, some of which have outdated info or conclusions.
Currently in Dorico we cannot:
- Write arbitrary chord symbols. We can use system text for such things, but those do not transpose with the music.
- Start a system with a double barline (without a graphical workaround)
- Have automatic double barlines at rehearsal marks (but manual ones are easy!)
- Color barlines
- Set a fixed split point for step-time midi entry. Since Dorico 4, it splits between the staves automatically based on the input.
And rest assured these are all on the team’s backlog for future development!
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For what it’s worth, I’m one of these who want to be able to treat rests like notes and enter them explicitly. Decades of Finale use, perhaps. Especially important in complicated rhythms.
Might be helpful to build a poll/survey that also allows everyone to indicate which features they need most, so we as a community get a sense of what we collectively care most about and frame our expectations accordingly. I have a feeling the developers already have a pretty good sense of this, along with a measure of the development resources required, and are moving forward with their usual clarity of vision.
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They do keep a finger on the pulse of needed features, but on the other hand they keep their timeline for development to themselves. We simply get new features when they announce them.
From a 2021 thread:
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Is this an option:
- Set the A major key signature .
- Copy and paste the music.
- Select the entire music in the A major area.
- Press Shift + Alt + Arrow up to move the music a half-step up.
That may work well when you set the key signatures first. Unfortunately they don’t respond to that keyboard command, so you can’t do it along with the notes, as you can with the Transpose dialog. If you Shift-Alt-arrow without changing the key sigs first, you may get a lot of messy enharmonics.
And of course this is only for the commonly needed “half-step” transposition.
Not necessarily, you can press the chromatic (you must not use the diatonic) key command multiple times.
And actually you don’t need to set the key signature first as Dorico doesn’t transpose the music anyway.
rickie, yes and yes.
But: if Dorico’s underlying concept is, to show the things - and not the non-things - we can’t just turn the world upside down 
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Except, rests are things. They have everything “notes” have except non-silence. 
The way Dorico stores notes is very similar to a piano roll from DAW/MIDI sequencer software:
In a piano roll, notes are single rectangles and can start and end in any arbitrary spot. The start and end location will affect how you would write that same note as traditional notation - in some cases, with ties. But Dorico treats a chain of tied notes as a single note, to retain that direct connection with the rectangles on the piano roll. (On a piano roll, there is no concept of “ties”, because the rectangular notes can be any duration you wish).
On the piano roll, it also doesn’t make sense to enter rests - there’s no “rest rectangle” in any DAW - if you want silence, you just leave an empty area.
It is this similar representation that enables Dorico to have its built in piano roll feature. If it always treated rests as things, it would be much more difficult to support this piano roll view with full editing functionality.
Not having rests treated as things makes certain things easier. In Sibelius I used to have to have an extra proofing step to check to make sure I had combined rests correctly in the piece. I can skip this step in Dorico because rests are not entered, so I can’t forget to combine them correctly.
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