What am I doing with this Yamaha MX49 connected via USB?

Just got a gift. It’s a Yamaha MX49.
I have played with other DAWS before like Ableton, but my MIDI knowledge is not great. I am reading through the Yamaha reference and owners manual and nothing much works as it’s supposed to .
It came with CuBase LE AI Elements and none of the menu items used in the manuals match the software, so it’s an extremely frustrating experience. I’ve yet to find a decent Youtube tutorial matching this software with this gear either.
I dont like video tutorials because many are done by people who dont seem to understand that when they look down and press a key, then continue narrating - but dont tell people what they just did on their keyboard - it’s also very frustrating. Again - nothing they’re saying matches what I see.
Can anyone please show me a POINT BY POINT means of attaching this Yamaha MX49 to Cubase LE AI Elements 12 (on a Mac running Big Sur) via the USB cable and playing through the software?
FWIW, when I press keys on the keyboard, I can see there is a signal showing on the meters - but I hear nothing.
Also, I have been able to play it through a Focusrite solo into Garageband via a 1/4" plug, but the signal is very , very low.
I want to use the MX49 as it was supposedly intended to be used through the Cubase software, that is, through the USB connection - but I can’t for the life of me figure out how to do it.

Thank you (profusely!) for whatever assistance you can provide.

PS: I know many people will suggest I RTFM (Read the… “Fine” Manual) and I have.
I have read the Yamaha Owners Manual and the Reference Manual BUT NEITHER OF THEM PROPERLY REFERENCE THE VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE I GOT WITH THE UNIT.
So when I am instructed (either on Steinberg’s website or in Yamaha’s manuals), to do something, it doesn’t work. This is what Yamaha has written:
Click “File” menu > “Preference” > “MIDI.” Confirm that “MIDI Thru Active” is checked.
But there is no “PREFERENCE” under the FILE menu!
I really can’t convey how frustrating this is.

The problem is that the manual for the Yamaha MX does not align with the software. And the software manual is atrocious. It is badly written and very PC focused.

As I’ve said before, I’ve used Ableton and other DAWS and at least been able to figure out these things. Not with cuBase.

A general primer that works for any external instrument…

Something like an MX can make sounds on its own. It can also serve as a ‘controller’ to trigger other sounds…over MIDI cables, or through the USB>MIDI interface, etc.

More advanced keyboards might also come with a special ‘plugin’ that ties together with your DAW to get even more ‘advanced’ features and abilities. More on that later. I’ll have to look it up to see if the MX has such a thing…

For a universal connection…you’ll connect your USB to the computer, and also connect a set of analogue audio cables out from the synth and to ‘inputs’ on the sound card.

I don’t have an MX, but I can show you with an old Fantom XR.

Some keyboards these days ALSO serve as an audio interface in their own right! If this the case for your MX, and you’ve installed any drivers and such that might have come with the keyboard, then you won’t need the analogue audio cables. Your MX will show up as an audio device over your USB connection. You’d see it somewhere in your Studio/Setup/Audio System page as an ASIO Driver.

If you use a keyboard that also offers this type of ‘usb audio interface’, then you’ll be bypassing any other audio devices on your system. You’ll need to connect your MX outputs directly to your amp/speakers.

In my case, I have a few different audio cards connected all at once, but I can only use ONE AT A TIME with Cubase. So I need to ‘pick one’.

My Fantom XR cannot send audio over USB or anything…so I’ll be using old fashioned analogue cables plugged into one of my sound cards. My sound card is subsequently connected to an amp and speakers.

In Cubase, you’ll make a new ‘audio track’.

Connect the inputs for that ‘audio’ track to come from your synth. In my case I’ve plugged it into the inputs 1 & 2 of my sound card and configured Cubase to connect them to an “Input” that I’ve named “Stereo In”. (Tap F4 to get at your audio interface setup stuff).

So, I see that this audio track is setup to hear audio from where my XR is plugged in.

To ‘hear’ what the synth is playing, you’ll need to enable ‘monitor’ or ‘record’ for that new ‘audio track’ that you’ve made for the MX. This is called ‘arming’ the track. In Cubase, tracks that are not ‘armed’ ignore or mute ‘input’ from outside sources. They’ll only play back sequenced (recorded/imported/drawn) events while the transport is playing/recording.

If tracks are ‘armed’, then they can record and/or pass through anything that is connected to their ‘inputs’ at any time. Even if the transport is not doing anything (play/record/rewind/etc.).

So, I’ll click ‘monitor’, and now I can hear what I play on my XR through Cubase. I can control the volume of this ‘audio track’ on the Cubase Mixer. I can use the strip features on the mixing desk to process this, or even add insert plugin effects if I like.

Next comes using the keyboard to ‘trigger’ other sounds in your DAW. That can be done via MIDI.

Just as an example, create a new ‘instrument’ track.

Add an instance of HALion Sonic, Name the track as you like.

Pick a sound you’d like to play in Sonic and load it into the first slot.

Set the ‘input’ of the new instrument track either to ‘All MIDI Inputs’, or specifically to the USB output of your MX keyboard (For me It’ll be my XR USB MIDI driver instead).

Again, you’ll need to have the track ‘armed’ for ‘monitor’ or ‘record’ to be able to hear it.
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A keyboard that can make its own sounds typically has a couple of different ‘modes’. In ‘local’ mode, it will always trigger its own internal sounds, in addition to sending ‘MIDI events’ that other instruments can pick as ‘triggers’ to make sounds. If ‘local mode’ is off, then the unit will NOT trigger its internal sounds, but it will send those MIDI events.

For the most part, as a beginner with a basic universal setup, you can just leave the thing in Local Mode (probably the default), and use the monitor/record buttons on your MX audio track to control if you hear the onboard sounds of the MX or not.

A keyboard like the MX can also ‘accept’ MIDI events over that USB connection, and have sounds that live in the MX triggered. To do this, create a new MIDI track in Cubase.
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Set its output’ to the MX (Fantom for me). Now whatever data is drawn/loaded/recorded onto the MIDI track can trigger sounds in the MX. I could use my keyboard to record to this MIDI track, and have it trigger the sounds in my Fantom XR.

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Hi and welcome to the forum,

Yamaha MX49 is a all in one device: Synthesizer, MIDI Keyboard, Audio Interface. Therefore if you want to use it fully, the settings might be a bit more advanced. But you can do it.

First of all, install the driver. Instal Yamaha/Steinberg ASIO Driver and choose it from the Studio > Studio Setup > Audio System > ASIO Driver. Don’t use ASIO Link Pro driver, as mentioned by @Brian_Roland. This is other driver.

You don’t need any settings in the Preferences. You can keep all preferences set as they are by default. Btw, where can you see the Preferences menu item? On Windows, it’s under the File menu. On Mac, it’s under the Cubase menu, same as every application does on Mac.

If you want to use virtual instruments (what is an easier way), add an Instrument track. You have several options there. If you want go for an universal one, select HALion Sonic SE. Once the window open, load a sound to slot 1. Just double-click any sound.

If you want to use the MX49 sounds, you need a MIDI Track (to send/receive MIDI data) and an Audio track (to get the sound from MX49 and be able to mix it with other tracks in Cubase - for example HALion Sonic SE instrument). The Audio track has to have the Monitor button enabled to be able to hear the signal from the input.

If you want to record to any track, enable the Record on the given track (red button) and then hit Record on the Transport Panel.

You mentioned, some menu items are not available… Be aware, the Devices > Device Setup changed to Studio > Studio Setup in the past. Some older tutorials might still use Device > Device Setup.

Hi.
Thanks to you both for your kind assistance.
It is currently 2:30 am here and I’m going to spend a little time trying what you have suggested. I do have to work tomorrow, so I can’t spare much time this evening…but as I appreciate your efforts, I’ll give it one last try before bed!

OH. NO. I wrote a very long very, descriptive post complete with screen shots. it is now 3:30 am and when I hit reply, I was told I am not permitted to include more than one image at a time. Myresponse had several.
Sigh.
Okay… Try this…

When I click on the “Audio System” inside the “Studio Setup” tab, these are the available items to select from. Thus far I have only used the “Built In Audio” option.

I’m afraid I have to call it a night for now. I think the problem is somehow with the tracks and identifying where the incoming signal is expected from. As I’ve said, I can see by the meters that some signal is being registered when I hit the keys of the MX… but still, no sound.

Thanks again… I will check in tomorrow when I return from work.

Hi,

Where are your headphones or speakers connected to? If they are connected to your MX49, use the Yamaha MX Series ASIO Driver. If they are connected to the Scarlett, use the Scarlett ASIO Driver.

Once you do this, double check the Studio > Audio Connections > Outputs. You can attach a screenshot of it, to see, if everything is OK.

The questions remain:

  • Do you want to use the virtual instruments sounds?
  • Do you want to use Yamaha MX sounds?
  • Do you want to record other tracks (microphone)?

Yes, yes and yes.

My intent is to play the MX through cuBase and the computers speakers (or headphone). - just as I do when using Garageband. Specifically, I want to both record the MIDI data and hear the instruments from the MX using my computer speakers (or via headphones attached to the Scarlett).

I can’t get it to work, probably because of some setting I’m missing in cuBase.

With Garageband, I attach a 1/4" cable (basically a guitar cable) to the out on the MX, then run it into the Scarlett.
From there, I can play the MX in Garageband either as an ‘instrument/vocal’ track (where I get the instrument sounds as an (admittedly weak) audio signal from the MX49) or as a MIDI signal/keyboard for all for the Garageband instruments.
What I cannot do (or have not figured out) is simultaneously send MIDI data and the MX instrument audio from the MX to Garageband.
When I use the MX with Garageband, I get either the audio signal or the MIDI data (which I can only use with the Garageband instruments )- not both.

That’s why I want to use cuBase.
It should permit me to hear the MX instruments and send the MIDI data, right? That’s why Yamaha literally builds in Cubase as the selectable DAW in the MX’s software. But I can’t get it to work.

That Garageband method literally requires absolutely no tweaking of channels or inputs beyond selecting the “Scarlett Solo” as the Mac’s “Input” (since the audio is being sent from the MX to the Scarlett via a 1/4" and uses a USB port to ‘drive’ the keys) and the “Internal Speakers/Built In” as the Output.
It is brain dead simple.

The same cannot be said for cuBase. Very frustrating.

Here’s another screen shot. (One at a time!) This is located under the “Studio Setup”. When Audio System is highlighted (on the left) the “Driver” drop down menu shows the following.
As you can see, I have “Built In Output” selected.

It is 5 AM! I am going to bed!

You should use the Scarlett ASIO driver if your speakers and headphones are connected to it, just as Martin said above.

PS. It’s “Cubase”, not “cuBase”. :wink:

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Not sure what you are trying to convey with that screenshot. (Would be great if you added some accompanying text.)
Still not the correct audio device.

Hi,

We recommend to use either Focusrite or MX driver. Please, try it.

To mlindeb:
It is not helpful to tell me things I am not interested in doing.
I have explained I want to hear instruments through the computer speakers.
To do this, I set the System preference Sound Output to > Internal Speakers > Built In.
I also have other options in that System setting, depending on what is attached to the computer via USB.
Those include “Scarlett Solo USB” and “Yamaha MX Series”.
When you say “You should use “X” driver”, but provide no instructions on how to change that setting, how useful do you think that advice is?

LASTLY, new users (like me) on this forum are limited to a single image in their posts.
I spent a significant amount of time trying to provide screen shots of my version of cubase (I DGAF what letters to capitalize at this point) only to be told I couldn’t do that!. Then I have people giving me grammar and/or spelling advice.
I have spent a long, long long time trying to get this software and hardware to work together. I have used more software in my life than most of you can imagine.
I’m not a newbie when it comes to technology, but I am with this setup. Please spare me the ‘wiseacre’ remarks.
I am asking for help, but these days my time is very tight and it’s infuriating that Yamaha and Steinberg together can’t provide better documentation. So I am stuck having to ask other people (strangers) to help me. I dont like doing that. But I have to figure this out. I am appreciative of people who are generally trying to be helpful, not of people trying to score ‘smart alecky’ points off me.

SO LETS TRY THIS: I WILL PROVIDE A SCREEN SHOT OF WHAT MY SETUP LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE RESULTS ARE.

  1. I HEAR NOTHING OUT OF THE MX49 WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES ATTACHED TO THE FOCUSRITE. HERE ARE THE SETTINGS

I HEAR NOTHING OUT OF THE MX49 WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES ATTACHED TO THE FOCUSRITE.
HERE ARE THE SETTINGS

I HEAR NOTHING OUT OF THE MX49 WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES ATTACHED TO THE FOCUSRITE.
Sys> YAMAHA Cubase> YAMAHA

I HEAR NOTHING OUT OF THE MX49 WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES ATTACHED TO THE FOCUSRITE.
Sys > YAMAHA : CuBase > Scarlett

I HAVE DONE AS WAS SUGGESTED.
I have tried the four available variations of sound output using Yamaha and the Focusrite Scarlett Solo.
NONE OF THESE WORKED

Alright. Good luck, bud.

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Hi,

This is the settings in Cubase, you need, if your headphones are plugged to the Focusrite. The System Settings has nothing to do with it.

As mentioned above… Attach the screenshot of the Studio > Audio Connections > Outputs, please.

We don’t see any MIDI data in the track yet, so there is nothing to hear. Or you would need to enable the Record or the Monitor button to be able to hear the sound while playing on the keyboard.

bye bye :wink:

Audio Connections : OUTPUTS