When is WL 9 coming out?

How about every other program that I use :slight_smile:

Outstanding examples of very good UIs can be found in Studio One (v3), the latest Nuendo/Cubase and especially iZoTope RX4 Advanced - which for me is closer to home for an “editing” environment to stay akin to what Wavelab does.

WL’s UI is sadly rooted in the distant Windows 95 past and even v7 and v8 have done nothing to bring it into a modern world. v7 for me was a disaster with it’s “workspaces” and every piece of the UI suddenly changing anytime you clicked on anything.

Even today with v8.5 - I am so concerned with ruining my standard audio file editing workflow - that I never click on anything outside my single workspace - like forever. I am certain I missing out on a bunch of cool stuff - but this crazy design is about as annoying as I have ever seen.

An EDITOR - should be for editing. Like Photoshop. When you are working on a file (or a group of files) and click on a tool or button - I am never suddenly “taken away” to some foreign land with no indicator on how to return.

WL9 really needs to get current (like 2015 current) and give us a return to ease of displaying it’s two keys environments - EDIT (Audio File Editor) and MIX (“Montage” - still a totally lame name).

I have never ever understood Montage and now do any of that type of assembly work in Studio One’s Project environment - which makes a laughing stock out of the WL Montage.

I still do like Wavelab’s editing ability - but it too is going to be usurped by other better tools if V9 does not deliver.

VP

I agree with this… I don’t like having two separate workspaces either. I miss this from earlier versions of Wavelab.

Also, I found setting up and positioning meters much much easier in earlier versions… I would just put them where I want them - anywhere on the screen, and they would always stay there. Now? It is not so simple… They are either in windows, or they are floating, and they sometimes don’t seem to open where I left them… They have sidebars or headers and take up more screen space. I miss the simplicity of this from earlier version of Wavelab.

Did you install the latest version 6.1.1? And latest elicenser software. No problem here on Win 7 64.
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Thomas, I do have a function WL6 on my Windows 7 PC, though I haven’t touched it in a great while, and I ‘installed’ it a long time ago.

If I remember correctly, the way I got it functioning was by taking a complete copy of the installed version of WL6 from another (at that time Windows XP) computer, and pasting it in the appropriate place on the W7 PC. BTW, I didn’t invent the trick, I got it somehow from this forum.

I would not want to be without the DDP and metadata features either. WL8 has many new and powerful features which are awesome and earn PG the “DAW Cordon Bleu” award! None of us WL veterans are complaining about these features.

It is the UI that is troubling us. I can report that after a year with WL8, nobody in our two studios has acclimated to the Workspace UI model. Frankly, everybody FCKNG HATES IT!!

I will add to the voices here that a WL6(ish) UI mode would be welcome.

I am a HUGE v6 fan.

I am enjoying the best of both worlds now.

I have v6 and v8 installed. I use v6 for tracking (record to montage track, overdubs) - have been for years and haven’t had the time or energy to test out the same procedure on v8 yet (v8 didn’t have record to montage feature for a while). V6 is so easy and familiar that I just keep going back to it for critical montage overdub/ recording. I use v8 for all other production, assembly and conversions. Both work fantastic on my Win 7 64bit machine. Granted v8 took some getting used to, but it’s HIGHLY configurable and I’m sure I will be moving my tracking sessions to v8 as soon I have a free moment. :slight_smile:

You do have to spend some time with v8, but you can definitely make it look “familiar” and you may enjoy some of the config options. It took me a year to sit down and configure it to my liking - very little down time in my world.

It’s worth the time though.

E

I, too, love WL8.

Personally, I customized the UI so it had the feel of 6 but with ‘more’.

The idea of the separate screens with the simple F5/ribbon button to switch. This is logical and appealing to me personally … but I started with PT so that probably accounts for that.

So I hear that WL 9 is in the Beta Test mode. I also heard that it may “solve” a lot of the problems with WL 8. I certainly hope so. I assume this means it will be out in the first or second quarter of 2016???

FWIW

I’m pretty psyched for the new version of Wavelab. Any fixes are always welcome, but just some of the new feature ideas that have been tossed around here in the forum - some of those are very exciting! Looking forward to the upcoming release! :slight_smile:

-Todd

Whilst I remain 100% skeptic (unfortunately) that the new release will again be rooted in the past (UI) - it is always fun to dream that it might actually get a completely new, logical, work friendly 2015-16 concept.

VP

Hmmmm … I did a trial with Studio One to see what it was like. I can’t say that the UI there had much appeal to me.

Pro Tools and Reaper look and feel better than that (to me anyway).

And therein lies the issue: we don’t all find the same things, appealing.

Each to their own. But it’s not Studio One that is the issue here.

It’s Wavelab and it’s UI being stuck in the 90’s.

VP

I said it before and I’ll say it again; I couldn’t care less how it looks. As long as the functionality is there - and with Wavelab, the functionality is still better than many others.

I have no issue with the functions (when they work). But the workflow has killed me in the last two releases (v7/8)

This jarring “workspace” vibe where you click on something and the entire screen disappears (or changes) has got to go.

It has gotten so bad for me that within v8 - I have just two “workspaces” now (after weeks of trial and error) that I am terrified to touch - for fear of ruining them and sending myself off onto another weird spiral trapped in WL :slight_smile:

Clearly I do not “get” this part of the program or understand how anyone could use it in day to day operations.

VP

I can’t fathom using Wavelab or even Cubase with one monitor. I’m using 4 21-inch monitors side by side and can’t help but think both applications sort of require this for any fast workflow use.

I too am excited about version 9. Automation…finally!
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That’s a nice vintage looking keyboard, Greggybud! :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes. Exactly. And with reliability.

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I have used Oberheim MC3000 and CME VX8 in the past, both hammer action controllers and I would prefer either over the Studio Logic VMK-188plus. There isn’t a huge difference among the 3. All of them are relatively heavy, but the VMK-188plus huge shortcoming is huge velocity gaps compared to others. Oberheim MC3000…good luck even finding one. CME VX8…most are probably bricks by now.

Functionality? Are you kidding yourself? We all had better be thankful PG is in the captains chair because I don’t think Steinberg prioritizes functionality or even workflow over the “features” in Cubase that apparently sell new DAWS. It isn’t about making key commands work. It isn’t about adding a simple feature like mix undo. It’s all about adding stuff that will appeal to newbies regardless of a 3rd party doing it better. Core functionality and improved workflow only appeal to crusty old farts trying to get stuff done quicker. Maybe we should just be thankful Wavelab isn’t competing with the DAWS.

I don’t use any other Steinberg products so I don’t look at those forums, but I’m very thankful for PG’s presence here. I’m not sure if other Steinberg developers are as active on Cubase/Nuendo forums.

I was refering to the keyboard you use when you write on this forum. I haven’t seen such beige/yellow white ones in ages. :laughing: