When will it be possible to disable the black color of the selected event?

Hi everybody, yesterday update my nuendo 13 to nuendo 14, and now when I select a any event this color is black, and this feature dont like. My workflow is spoiled because I guide myself visually.

Greetings to all friends

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One of the reasons I don’t use NU14 for actual work. :-/

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(plus one, for the five characters)

+1 already tired of resisting tyranny…

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Is there nothing I can do but wait for the Nue15 to go on sale?

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Cubase

grafik

Nuendo

grafik

I’m questioning what actual benefit different ways of colorization/highlighting in Cubase/Nuendo bring to the customer.

For what is the different highlighting in Nuendo good for? Shall this difference reflect, that Nuendo is €4xx more expensive or that the product has a higher value in general? To me, that makes no sense at all and seems to be the wrong approach.

Ergonomics and consistency between the two products should be the main priorities. This would provide more value to users who work with both applications or migrate from one to the other. It would also make coding for devs simpler if such unnecessary changes are avoided. The functionality/features of the product should make a difference, not different colorizations etc.

Personally, this request is not important to me, but I support it because I believe the underlying concern is that users become frustrated when visual representations are changed without a meaningful reason. If you are used to something (be it the look, signalling, workflow or whatnot) then you get used to it and it is simply disturbing if this becomes changed for no evident reason. And if somebody thinks this needs a change, then honor the principles of ā€œdefensive programmingā€ and make it at least configurable and let the users choose what they prefer. Changes ā€œfor the sake of changingā€ never made any sense.

I really don’t know whether people today are still properly aware of what constitutes quality in software development. Quality (besides code quality, performance, etc) primarily involves ergonomics and continuity, and greater importance should be attached to defensive programming in particular.

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I was going to upgrade to N14 mostly to support the team (not many new features I need otherwise). But I also rely on familiar visuals and this sounds like it will mess with my workflow chi. :-1:

These sort of design changes should really be run by professional users before implementation. Change for the sake of change is not real progress…

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Hello everyone, the issue remains unresolved. The option to change the outline of the selected event isn’t a problem (at least for me). The real problem is changing the background color of the selected event. I’m really not comfortable with my workflow, as I rely heavily on grids and hit points.

There is no difference between C14 and N14:

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See the two screenshots above and the two arrows in the Nuendo screenshots for the two differences.

Maybe you are not aware of, that the topic is difference of Nuendo 14 and earlier versions of Nuendo and I added to this topic that other differences exist between Cubase+Nuendo 14 which also make no sense to me. The two products should be more equal.

You are simply not aware of some of the customizations of Nuendo and Cubase. That’s why for you things seem to be different when they are not.

I am well aware of that. But you expanded the topic, unfortunately with poor quality information. That’s why I interfere.

@Johnny_Moneto So you know about a way to avoid the dreaded colour inversion of selected events that has been introduced with NU14 - amongst a number of other issues?

it’s an Option in Cubase, is that not so in Nuendo too?

are we talking about the same thing?… the red line around the selected item.

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The red line is all what seasoned Nuendo-users want to see. We want to get rid of the disturbing inversion, which isn’t possible AFAICS.

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Ah, I havent used Nuendo in anger yet so wasn’t sure…

@Dietz good to see you still here, I remember you from the old (nuendo v 1.0) forum days :slight_smile:

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sigh …. those where the days. :sunglasses: … Nuendo has come a long way since then, but funnily enough, some of the complaints from that time are still topical in NU14, and new ones (like the one we’re talking about here) have come up. ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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I know that there is currently no setting to switch it off. There is only the setting regarding the red outline.
I also know that it bothers more people than those that have raised their voice in this topic.
What I don’t know is why Steinberg decided to go that way.

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The color inversion can be great when done well. I like the color inversion in Pro Tools but Steinberg’s implementation is a poor clone. If you look at what Pro Tools does it’s far more refined and not so jarring on the eyes.

I’d personally like it if Steinberg implemented what Pro Tools does and get that subtlety and attention to detail correct.

I’m fine with any solution that includes the option to get rid of the inversion, and I know for sure that there are quite a few other users who feel the same.

Sure. But also please check how PT does it as their solution is IMO far superior. There is a different type of color ā€œinversionā€ and you also have an outline depending on mode which follows region color. I use both DAWs daily and PT never bothers me with knowing what is selected, however Nuendo does.

PT (object selection):

PT (time selection):

Nuendo: