Where has snap point for midi gone? ie part snap point

I KNOW this use to exist because it was there in Cubase before audio.
I havent done much midi since then but today I need it finish a job for tonight and cant find it?

Hi,

What do you mean by a Snap Point? We have the Snap On/Off and the Grid setup. Do you mean the MIDI Part (left) border?

Yes its in earlier cubase manuals…

you have a midi part that is arbitrary size/contents. Move the cursor to be over it somewhere and execute to change snap handle of the object. I think it changed with vst or SX

BTW application: when you record a real human playing eg a synth which has a slow attack, humans play before the beat so that the feel of the performance is correct. This places notes ahead of the grid. Therefore to manage those as parts, the snap point is not the start of the part but has a short section before the beat

This is a very obvious need unless you are input midi manually and no longer playing which may be the case but this feature has been in cubase since the beginning as a very basic tool

It exists now for audio too…its in the manual under “snap point” and is the same mechanism Im referring to

Look, if no one else even notices…then its unlikely to get changed
It would be nice, once again, to have consistency with tools and program overall.

Just means you have to always eg have a 1 bar prestart and copy with that in mind

Which, please?

I recall when I first started back in v1.0 but I didnt use midi very much from SX onwards

so Im guessing the last time was vst. Ill have a look later.
My first real memory was when I was on Atari…but I used midi heaps until eg SX.

Either way…after doing practically audio only for 10 years…going back to midi for a client…and noticing how often I used snap point to cursor…I went to use the same tool for midi (unless I was dreaming) and couldnt find it…which is weird to have it for one and not for another.. Ill get some time tonight

Hi,

Does it mean, you want to move a Note Start to the Cursor position?

You might not share this point of view but there is consistency. A midi part does not have a snap point and neither does an audio part.
Audio events have snap points. The equivalent for midi would be to have snap points for note events and articulations. This is indeed not present but then… it is not what you asked for either.

In the preferences there is an option to have midi parts always start and end on a bar.

If the notes just start a few ticks before the bar you could utilize this setting in the MIDI section:
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Hi @Johnny_Moneto
If that is consistency, I must have gone to a diff school…like I said fragmented implementation for a basic need…but hey if no one can remember using or needing snap point to cursor for midi then its probably moot.

if you have an abstract required eg an arbitrary start point to an event whether its audio or midi or whatever, splitting it off into diff ways of managing that, including a back door
preference is clearly not one consistent way to do it.

Not at all. Midi notes etc are the equivalent of clips in cubase not events ie clips are atomic.

Parts, events, midi parts etc are all program objects that relate to the placement in time…therefore a single system to manage that might be helpful.

The solution you posted is also not what Im talking about…of course you can snap to bars and extend before because there might be “hidden” bits but context is key

It really helps when you have recorded a cluster of pieces that all start at various start points and you click the cursor to a comment point and select snap to point for all the them (and group), then that cluster is a free agent. Sure you can adjust start of parts etc but why when there was already a very elegant way to deal with it…whether audio or midi

Background:
IN the early 90s before I got a falcon/audio cubase, I did some large jobs at a studio doing midi file backing track libraries. Thats where ie used it for intense work arranging…so thats why its so clear to me…and before

If there is snap point to cursor for audio then in the same way (as it has been historically) a snap point for midi for the same reasons is reasonable and professional…consistency.

Thanks anyway