Why are both rests selected?

Dorico
1

When I select the 8th rest the 16th rest is selected too. It doesn’t matter if I CTRL-click.

2

Can you upload your project file here, or even just a few bars, so we can see?

(Also, for future reference, you can post MP4s here directly instead of posting a Google Drive link – makes it a little easier to view.)

3

Thanks, Aaron!

Here’s a couple of bars of the file.

Selecting rests issue.dorico (1.4 MB)

I was going to upload my video directly here but while in the window for writing my post and adding the video it had a visual appearance of a file that won’t work. It’s uploaded here now. :slightly_smiling_face:

4

It has to do with the fact that you’ve removed the rests in that voice earlier in the bar. If I select the rest(s) and turn off the Starts Voice property, it turns into a dotted eighth rest.

This is related to Dorico turning two tied quarters into a half note (depending on position in the bar, and note grouping rules). You’ve got a rest of three 16ths in duration, and with the preceding rests hidden, Dorico applies different grouping options to that rest. You can’t select just one of those rests, because to Dorico they’re the “same” implicit rest – just like you can’t select just one of tied pair of notes.

If you need to select them separately, you can force their duration to make them explicit rests: Select them, then press letter O and then 45. Or you can “split” the rest by entering note input mode, making sure that you’re in downstem voice 3, placing the caret at the sixteenth rest, and typing U.

(I don’t know what the rest of the music looks like, but in this isolated example I think you could also get rid of both rests in that voice and move the last B 16th note to downstem voice 2 [green].)

5

What is 45?

6

Press 4 then 5

Jesper

7

Thanks, Aaron!

As we very often speak of Dorico as a separate entity, they have a quite different (some would say complicated) way of working and thinking. While working through the steps in your guide I went "aha…AHA!..What…WHAT!..ok. :blush:

I’ve discovered that Google AI can answer quite a lot of questions in a few seconds, but this one would have been impossible for it to explain. :robot: