In the “Introduction to Pages and Master Pages” video
at approx. 1:55 the narrator shows that each Master Page template includes a Left and Right page. He admonishes us that changes have to be made to both the Left and Right pages in the Master Page template and demonstrates the L>R buttons to help this. And…Presto! the L/R page numbering (unfortunately) disappears, creating page numbers on the left side of both the Left and the Right pages (!!???)
And every time you use L>R it happens again. So…basically…how I this intended to work? Why would we be instructed to destroy the mirror-image of page numbers especially since those L/R numberings are included in the default page templates? What is the “right” way that Dorcio “wants “us to use L/R so as to keep the L/R page number locations?
Also notice that some changes you make to the right page happen on the left page too without having to copy them explicitly – such as changing the contents of a text block that appears on both.
Manny,
yes you have spotted a glitch in that video. Anthony should have fixed the position of the page-number frames after copying from L->R
Also consider, this is a very old help video, now Master Pages have been renamed within Dorico,
they are now called Page templates
Extend the page number frame from left to right margin (and anchor top, left, right) and use paragraph style “Page Number” with alignment “Outside Edge”. Then you never have to think about L-R adjustment again.
I’ve been looking at one of my pages and I am thinking your solution means no other frame can be aligned with the page number? It would need its own horizontal frame? Or can I put a text frame in the middle of the page frame?
Mark, this will work, if your players use a digital device to read your music.
Dealing with real printouts and possibly booklets the L R / even odd page numbering is absolutely critical - for the sake of page turns.
In other words, if you give your files to a printing service, they will know, which page to put to the left and which page to put to the right.
Of course if I’m using a printing service they need everything specified! But I have done much more copying work for choir directors who choose their own way of copying the music, so that page 1 might end up on the right or left.
I must say that this really irks me as well and I have never understood why Dorico behaves this way… The page numbers should not change when using copy L to R or R to L. If you want both page numbers on one side of the page, then manually move the one that’s not right, but the whole point of adjusting a number of text boxes/music frames that you customize on a left hand page is to copy them to a right hand page and not simply to create two identical left hand pages. Why have a two page spread if the page numbers don’t stay where they are? IMO they should automatically be overridden when using copy L to R or R to L. I know it’s a relatively easy fix, although as well as dragging the text box you have to also adjust the text justification to get the alignment right, so it gets very tedious after a while and is a totally unnecessary behavior.
I will implement @BassoContinuo ’s solution, but again, this requires quite a few drags and clicks and really should not be necessary. No newbie is going to know this technique.
Erm? Because a page template might have to apply to a right or left page. And Dorico doesn’t know in advance what differences you might want to see between the two.
Erm! Your comment makes no sense…I’m talking specifically about page numbers shifting. When you copy from L to R or R to L you are doing so because you want the same formatting on both a left hand page and a right hand page, but if the page number shifts, you’re left with two identical left or right hand pages and this is not what is generally desired.
