Why does this keep happening?

The bar goes missing at the beginning. So I have a beginning measure with 8 beats and all the rest after are correctly in 4/4. It still has all the notes I put in it.

I assume it is something I do during editing.

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My guess would be that you deleted the now missing barline.
Maybe it was selected together with something you intended to delete?

Maybe, but why has it happened only at the beginning then? 3 times now, I believe over a month.

It never happens in the middle of the piece.

And just to be doubly-sure: you haven’t been entering in long pickup bars, have you? Or using a dashed barline and then chancing the length of dashes to zero or something like that?

The only fancy thing I’ve done with barlines at all, is enter a different time signitures, but never at the beginning.

So you haven’t done multiple independent time signatures at the beginning, for instance? I know that can throw a wrench in the gears if you don’t have the proper settings.

Can you attach your project?

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Well, I see it’s easy to do, just highlight and hit delete. I just can’t figure out why i only am doing it in the first bar. And I guess making sure there isn’t something else causing it.

Again:

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The score is not going to help me figure out why it happened two other times on Dorico standard templates. I was trying to figure out if there was something unusual I could avoid doing.

The point is that perhaps someone who is not you might be able to figure out what may have happened in the score. Or, perhaps there is some odd bug on your machine, and when someone else opens up a file, the barline is really there, at which point we’d go a different direction. No one else is experiencing this, so in light of any other evidence, it sure seems like user error.

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What can I say, sometimes you know it’s not the thing being suggested even if you don’t know the exact cause. It’s like being asked if I have tires on the car, when I can see there are tires on the car and someone wants me to send a picture of the tires on the car anyway.

It is possible to select and operate on the first barline after a time sig out of view by selecting something to do with meter later on. I don’t recall offhand what that is. But I doubt we can help unless you show us some evidence of what you did. Next time you see it happen, save a copy, cut it down, and post it.

P.S. You know how to remedy the problem, right?

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Yes, thanks.

Fair enough! But you wouldn’t be the first person on the forum to have missed the forest for the trees. (I count myself among this very number of esteemed colleagues :sweat_smile: lol)

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If you have a problem with your car and you try describing it to a mechanic, what do you think they’ll say if they can’t diagnose the problem over the phone?

I’m not quite sure what your concern is with this request but I personally can’t help you without seeing it. Hopefully there’s someone who can.

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My mechanic can’t make my car appear in his shop. But a dorico user can open the string quartet template, or the romantic orchestra template, the two which are the two before this occurrence I was using and add some notes and delete the first bar, and then tell me how many ways that bar could disappear in standard template. Because that’s basically all that is different.

I did it early on in those two instances, and I hadn’t done much at all. This time I did it really late, so it’s possible it’s something related to the score, but I really doubt it.

I was probably being clumsy. Since nothing else occurs to me.

And what if he has three of those cars that work just as they should?

I just created a new project from the romantic orchestra template, added some notes in the first bar, and then deleted it. Then I did it again. And again. Then I did it with the string quartet template.

There’s no problem with my car.

Can you at least post a screen grab? Or a clear, step-by-step list of instructions of what you did?