Will OmniVocal, make it to Nuendo?

I am wondering about this, since it is a plug-in, but I don’t want to have to purchase a Cubase license (and maintain it) just for this one “feature”.

I know about Vocaloid but that would seem to be mainly for a non-English speaking market, even though I am sure it would work with English text.

Besides anything else, I am not keen on evaluating all of the vocal libraries; kind of like Dreamtonics, since I use EmvoiceOne, as it is a highly standardised product, unlike those already mentioned and OmniVoice integrates directly into the DAW for even more standardisation.

I can’t think of a reason why not. So far, Nuendo has had all plug-ins from Cubase included.

Were, any of those plug-in’s, from Yamaha?

Everything makes it into Nuendo.

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And sometimes a little better than in Cubase :slight_smile:

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Sounds promising, but I am after a confirmation.

I have a download access code (still on N14 trial) and I am waiting for the trial to end, and I am further considering trialling Cubase, after the Nuendo trial ends, due to project compatibility between the products.

I crossgraded from Cubase to Nuendo, some time ago, to take advantage of text display on a video monitor, for singers but alas AI vocals came into existance in that time and I have not “used” a real vocalist since, even though that is my intention at some stage.

The problem is, if OmniVoice does not make it to Nuendo, then I will be stuck having implemented new vocals (I currently use Emvoice One, and its’ great but the two original voices, Lucy and Jay are a pain to automate on record, compared to newer voices) but the sound of OmniVoice from the video is nice and clear, and tangible, plus I can keep my melodies in the DAW, as well as text which is how I originally started, using a plug-in called Alter Ego, from Plogue.

I would much rather stick with Nuendo because of quality control and I admire anyone who likes the bleeding edge of beta software and new versions, i.e., Cubase but there is no path back to Cubase from Nuendo as far as I am aware so it is potentially a non-starter for me, unfortunately unless the rules change.

You fully understand that the only confirmation any of us will have of what’s actually included in Nuendo 15 will occur the day Nuendo 15 is released.

No way even Timo or Matthias would get into THAT kind of conversation here 5-6 months before N15’s release.

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Hello,

There was talk of allowing long trials of Cubase for Nuendo users but without confirmation on that front, where is the information on how to proceed, now that AI has reached the DAW?

My topic has the added tag “steinberg-licensing”, so are Steinberg free to use the plug-in, as they see fit, or not, I wonder.

Cheers

No idea what that question means, but the steinberg-licensing tag is generated automatically when a post is about a licensing issue.

Hi Steve,

Thank you for your reply, however that still does not offer any further information, in relation to my question.

This question needs to be answered, in my view because AI is now a fundamental part of the DAW, and I believe Steinberg have an obligation to provide information to users, as to what the baseline feature set comprises between the two workstation products.

Regards,

Garth

If you want an official answer you should communicate with them directly through a support ticket.

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I am in Australia, so short of calling Yamaha directly, or sending an email to Steinberg, I don’t like my chances unfortunately but thank you for reiterating the official position.

There was no “talk”. There was an off the top of his head comment by Timo or someone a while back (regarding ext trials) that “well….if we were to do that…it wouldn’t be easy cuz we’d have to do this/that….but if we were gonna hypothetically do something like that, we’d have to first change this in the database to do this sort of thing…..”

There was no promise of anything regarding anything.

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No, but this is the connndrum of new software.

I use Nuendo for music but I want some of the post features as well for when I decide to employ people so if there was a way to alternate between the applications, with confidence, then I would happily do that hence my talking about a Cubase trial but if we are to be stuck in silos, then I just want the plug-in, as soon as possible without compromising my workflow or else future access to software.

It’s not just coming to Nuendo—it could easily outclass every rival, especially since you can leverage all the native tools to tweak, accelerate, and refine the output effortlessly.

Unfortunately, it may offer little to no benefit for non-English-speaking users — including German or Hindi — and I don’t see that changing in the foreseeable future.

I use a chain of bleeding edge AI modeling tools at hugging face to restore my old recordings and rerelease them for example this song it takes time experimenting but results are worth it..

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I just commenced a trial of Synthesizer V on a very low powered PC, laptop and so far the results are great.

The plug-in, now understands variable tempo, and uses ARA quite well in an empty project.

Crossgrading to Nuendo in the recent years did not surrender Cubase. You can still upgrade Cubase and still upgrade Nuendo separately.

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My only gripe was having to submit an official government ID for Vocoflex, which was part of the bundle I purchased. The licensing process on macOS also turned out to be a bit of a hassle. Otherwise, Synthesizer V is as good as it gets — exceptionally powerful and refined. OmniVocal, on the other hand, genuinely surprised me with how good it is, even in its beta stage. Best of all, it’s native, natural and allows installation on up to three machines, which is a huge plus.

I crossgraded, before the Steinberg Licensing System, cam into effect, i.e., my license for Cubase was on a dongle @ Cubase 11.

I don’t like having to use ARA, because of the rendering within the plug-in, which may suit some people but not me since I would rather just use multiple instances and record the output to audio, as I do with Emvoice One, and while the voices are very good, and the editing extremely detailed, they tend to advertise their voices as being native English when in fact they are not, which means you need to construct words via phonemes and not plain English.

As well, there are no zoom controls and the app does not allow a stationary cursor