WL - Pitch Detection and Stock Plugin

A Pitch Graph that can show pitch.

Tweaking the graph is too much to ask for as there are tools already available for this from other vendors.

For example - a feature similar to rainbow view or a separate pitch analyze window.

And if WL can take pitch detection plugin from other Steinberg software - A plugin that can show pitch of a file in real time.

Also, reminder to change default setting of WL13 - A3 to 220

Hi

What would be the application for this in mastering?

This can help users analyze pitch of audio files in graph or real time. May be a plugin is already there with Steinberg. At least users can avoid searching and signing up for free tools.

WaveLab is used for more than just mastering. But making this feature high-quality is not a simple task. And as @Marker mentions, there are already (good) tools to do that. I don’t say never, especially because I like WaveLab being able to analyse audio in and out, but this is not a high priority because the ratio of global interest vs. difficulty is low.

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This was only an idea, that came to my mind.

But these two if they can be implemented

  1. Change A3 to 220
  2. Take Pitch Detection Plugin from Steinberg if such a plugin exists.

I see a plugin exists, but it seems to be a guitar tuner.

and the below pitch corrects, if there was something in between these two plugins, that can display pitch in real time.

Hello.
Our class has been evaluating several Steinberg’s products over the past few weeks… Nuendo, WavLab. ect. Reading about ongoing issues that still persist today was disheartening, especially for Nuendo; but dismissing capabilities like scene detection, pitch analysis, context-aware processing, ect. can seem short-sighted, especially for those that desire a tight DAW with no 3rd-party plug-ins.

These features are highly-valuable, especially in post-production workflows. It’s difficult to imagine many users rejecting tools that could save them hours of manual (tedious) work; turning tasks that take only minutes or seconds into efficient processes. While it’s disappointing to see such potential overlooked, we now have clarity. Thank you.

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Of course … and I of all people (coming from an Audio Post background) should have thought about that before posting. Apologies.

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Why is this still here? What’s the use for it with its very crude resolution?

This has been there since 1999. Amazing.

It’s great to leave it open when meeting with prospective clients in your studio.
Guaranteed to impress!

”Well, this guy is a true engineer!”

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Sorry I have to ask! Do you like WaveLab at all?

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Sure, it’s a great program, but it seems lost in some kind of overengineering like trying to be a jack of all trades. It is overcomplicated in simple tasks, imho. This is what I critize, nothing else.
I love to use it, but very often stumble over some pathways, that seem to be incomplete, missing or logically inconsistant in the GUI.

And yes, I do like WL a lot and would definetely not waste my time mentioning things, which should be improved drastically, imho.

To come back to the quesion: Why is this silly spectrogram still there and has not been improved during the last 20 years? Eyecandy for the innocent? Waste of code and compilation time, imho.

Your comments are rather ‘single user centric’. Other users have found 3d Frequency analysis helpful. For example: Feature Request: Additions to 3D Freq Analysis

What do you actually mean by ‘Eyecandy for the innocent?’ Who are these innocent people you are referring to? @stratavox perhaps? It’s just a tool like any other and there’s no obligation to use it.

Why are you calling it a ‘silly spectrogram’?, which is very easy to say but difficult to justify. It’s not particularly ‘silly’ and it’s not really a ‘spectrogram’ in the traditional sense of the term.

More constructive criticism might be appropriate. What are you actually trying to say? Do you want to see improvements to the 3D Frequency Analysis? If so, you could consider starting a new topic on this subject, rather than hijacking this one. Or do you simply want to see 3D Frequency Analysis removed? If so, likewise you could consider starting a new topic on the subject, rather than hijacking this one.

What do you actually use Wavelab for? Do you ever have the need to analyse audio files?

There are a few hundred users in this forum, and many fewer active ones.
But in the real world, the number of WaveLab users counts in tens of thousands (not daily users, okay).
Sometimes the uses are very different from what you might think…
I don’t remember the details (this was several years ago), but I remember this feature being used by a cardiologist and also by a seismologist (among others). I even saw it being used in some movie or TV series, probably because of its visual impact.

I agree that this feature could be modernised; maybe this will happen someday. But there is no plan to remove it.

And to be frank and complete, there is a small sentimental aspect behind this feature, because most of the related code actually comes from the first software I made for Steinberg back in 1987, for the Yamaha DX7.

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I sure do :slight_smile:
The spectrogram needs high resolution.

I agree for nostalgic reasons.

In that case, why not reply to and give support to the following topic about that specific subject?: Feature Request: Additions to 3D Freq Analysis instead of hijacking this one. Hint: maybe do a search before posting.

In that topic, @stratavox requests the same;

  1. Increase resolution some - of course it would be too busy if it went too high but it would benefit from an increase.

And just out of curiosity, what does everything you posted have to do with the subject matter of this topic… which was ‘WL - Pitch Detection and Stock Plugin’?

See here for instance:

That has nothing much to do with what I posted and does not answer my questions. I see no reference to that particular topic in this thread. Please clarify.

I repeat:

why not reply to and give support to the following topic about that specific subject?: Feature Request: Additions to 3D Freq Analysis instead of hijacking this one. Hint: maybe do a search before posting.

I also repeat:

And just out of curiosity, what does everything you posted have to do with the subject matter of this topic… which was ‘WL - Pitch Detection and Stock Plugin’?

In fact it can be useful at times, even with the current resolution limitations.

Setting the display’s frequency range to a limited bandwidth can be enlightening to check for some unexpected events that happen for a very short time.
I sometimes (not often) have used it to check LF (2Hz to 60Hz) events. They’re much more apparent with the 3D Frequency Analysis as they stay fixed in time, as a snapshot.

Of course a higher (much higher) resolution would be awesome.

My oppinion: leave it there and improve when possible.

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Yes! :rofl: So true. The kinds of things that impress some people….

So yes, please leave it there. If @pg1 ever does an “enhanced” 2026 version, he needs to make sure to leave this classic old version in there!

(But first, I hope he spends time on making a DAWproject import/export feature for the montage!)

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You helped code the DX-7?!? Wow! I had one of those in a previous musical life. What was it called again … ‘subtractive synthesis’ or something.