WL11 - Noob - Master an EP Tutorial Fail!

system · September 28, 2022, 5:56am

From waxmaster2000:

I’m enthusiastic about Wavelab as it addresses virtually every limitation I was experiencing trying to master my music in Logic. I found Justin’s tutorials and watched the metadata and am 2/3 through Master an EP with Audio Montage.

I have successfully created a montage just like the one Justin shows for The Wavelabs, however I let Wavelab automagically sample rate convert the files into the montage because it’s just a tutorial.

I’ve got the two lanes, one track view with the songs on the record all set up but when I press the play button on the timeline, nothing happens. I have several audio interfaces on my iMac but for this I use MOTU 2x2 w/ high end headphones. The configuration is latest WL11 as of a couple of days ago on an iMac Apple Silicon with latest macOS.

PG1 · September 28, 2022, 6:42am

Does it work with another device than your MOTU?

S-EHansson · September 28, 2022, 6:54am

Hi!

hope it helps…

regards S-EH

system · September 28, 2022, 11:28am

From waxmaster2000:

Thanks for the tip. I selected the iMac’s built-in headphones and playback works correctly. If I switch to the MOTU driver (USB class device, no 3rd party driver) the timeline will not play. I did a brief screen recording to show what I am doing:

youtu.be/floKBzb0lC0

Obviously Wavelab is useable for many tasks with the built-in headphones jack, but using a quality I/O with high-impedance headphones is a necessity for properly evaluating what I’m doing.

system · September 28, 2022, 11:55am

From waxmaster2000:

I’m now gathering my wits and just plugged in a Zoom Audio F6. If you’re not familiar with this device it has a unique input stage with dual DACs which combine a quiet version of a channel input with a loud version into a HDR 32-float sample.

In any event, WL11 is working correctly with this device. Unfortunately, it is a field recorder and also likely not designed to drive high-impedance headphones because it has a 1/8" jack. I guess it’s on to Expert Sleepers ES-9.

system · September 28, 2022, 12:03pm

From waxmaster2000:

Quick test of Expert Sleepers ES-9 is also a success. The downside is I’m not sure how the specs compare with the MOTU which I purchased specifically for checking mixes with high end Sennheiser headphones.

I guess it’s time to go to the MOTU site and check into firmware updates for the M2.

Thanks for the help.

system · September 28, 2022, 12:17pm

From waxmaster2000:

Latest: downloaded MOTU firmware updater and flashed unit to latest 2.02 firmware. Discovered M-Series custom audio driver. Installed and rebooted Mac. Relaunched Wavelab. New problem: Wavelab crash with this stack:


Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
abort() called


Kernel Triage:
VM - pmap_enter failed with resource shortage
VM - pmap_enter failed with resource shortage
VM - pmap_enter failed with resource shortage
VM - pmap_enter failed with resource shortage
VM - pmap_enter failed with resource shortage


Thread 0 Crashed::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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Justin_Perkins · September 30, 2022, 3:24pm

I had a MOTU unit for a few days a few years ago for my secondary home setup and I think I remember that I had to make it part of an aggregate device in MacOS for it to play nice with WaveLab.

I got rid of it because I didn’t like it overall and it wasn’t working out. Then I tried the MOTO 8D again a few weeks ago for just an AES metering input and it kept making my Mac crash when it was idle for awhile (not WaveLab related).

That’s my way of saying I don’t really trust MOTU stability (at least on Mac). Bob Katz made a recent post about some concerns with the MOTO 8D as well.

Long story short, if the MOTU unit isn’t working in WaveLab, make an aggregate device in Audio MIDI Setup and then choose that in WaveLab.

I had to do this for awhile with the Grace m900 but Grace eventually updated the m900 firmware so it works with WaveLab directly.