WL12 Montage Bugs

PG,

I’m experiencing some strangeness with a montage I created with WL11 and opened today in WL12.

In the video below, I’m running audio from one Reference Track (pitching), out to my analog chain, and recording it to a separate track (catching). At first, this track would not play back once I captured it - it only played back when I listened to the Input of the track. I had to create a new track and copy the audio clip onto that track to be able to play it.

Now, on the new track I created, when I click the icon to monitor the input, it does not monitor the input - it only continues to play the audio clip. You’ll see in the video I removed the output to my analog chain DAC from the Reference track yet audio still appears to be passing. When I mute my analog chain via hardware, it also shows that the montage is not reflecting the input.

I hope this makes sense and please let me know if I can answer any questions.

MG

Additional finding, Direct Monitoring was enabled and I then disable it, which resolved this issue. So it seems that Direct Monitoring is overriding the Input mode.

Seems like this didn’t get traction. Adding another video to demonstrate the bug I wrote above (copied below):

In the video below, I’m running audio from one Reference Track (pitching), out to my analog chain, and recording it to a separate track (catching). At first, this track would not play back once I captured it - it only played back when I listened to the Input of the track. I had to create a new track and copy the audio clip onto that track to be able to play it.

By the way, this same bug occurred in WL11 and would drive me crazy then too.

Video of this phenomenon here:

MG

Are you saying, that if you record a track, you can’t play it afterwards?
This is the case if you have the monitor button enabled. When this is the case, the input is played back, not the clip.
Or you have to use the Direct Monitoring mode, because in that case, the monitoring happens close to the driver level.

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Thanks for this. I’ve been using WL for nearly 15 years in a professional capacity so I’m aware of the Input button and it’s functionality.

Did you watch the video? The audio is not playing back (look at the track meters) with the input button deselected. Meaning, the captured clip is not being played back. That same clip moved to a new track then plays back as one would expect.

All best,
M

This was introduced in WaveLab 10, hence about 5 years ago, not 15 years ago :wink:

Yes, this is how I understood your issue and could tell you the solution.

Thanks, PG. I was referring to using the software for editing before WL10.

Just trying to be clear so apologies if somehow I’m misunderstanding. In the video, I am showing you that no audio is playing back even with the Input button deselected. So this is a bug, correct? What you said above does not solve the issue.

As mentioned, I’m happy to send you the montage and audio privately if that would help as it is reproducible on my end after quitting and re-opening.

All best,
Mark

Before WaveLab 10, it was not possible to record and monitor a montage track. Therefore, I am not sure what you are referring at.

There is no button called “input”. There is a record button, and a monitor button.

On your video, the monitor button is activated (green). Hence WaveLab takes the input and send it to the output. When this is the case, the input is played back, not the clip, if “Direct Monitoring” is OFF.
However, the clip is played if “Direct Monitoring” mode is ON, because in that case, the monitoring happens close to the driver level.

There is no but that I know in the current system.

Thank you, PG. I am referring to using Wavelab for Audio Editing prior to using it for this workflow.

Regarding the Monitor button, are you referencing my second video I posted? I am thinking you are referencing the first video I posted. The first video error is my fault - I understand the Direct Monitoring concept now.

The second video shows the bug in this session. Could you please let me know if you’re seeing this?

Thank you,
MG

On your video, the clip is gray, hence muted. Why it is muted, I don’t know, because I don’t see the mute button activate. But this should be the problem. Why do you think it is muted?

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Correct - that’s what it looks like to me, though I can’t figure out how to unmute it. The track goes green/looks active when I drag to the newly created track below, then back to grey/muted looking when it’s on this track.

This has happened to me before like I mentioned, and it may have started from me duplicating a track that previously was recorded to.

Is there a way I’m missing to make the clip muted/unmuted active/inactive?

Thanks much,
MG

Try to toggle and mute and solo buttons. Verify if the clip itself is muted.