Thats not true. Its not basic, but memory optimisation may be slightly more fine tuned to define the massive dynamic range an Atmos theatrical release demands.
A cover song is 3 to 6 min, a film can be 30 min to 180 min
A one sec gunshot can be 10 layers/tracks.
So I would like to know what you think is missing in Cubase automation, maybe you might just get it.
I think mpe parameters automation for a full score probably is just as intense as an atmos mix though
There is technically no difference, you can test it by opening a Cubase project in Nuendo… try the null test, they null perfectly.
Nuendo does have some interesting dialogue and sound design tools that if you are a visually oriented musician you can greatly benefit from.
I do miss the full set of instruments esp the Independence sampler of Sequoia , though when it comes to Postproduction Mastering and Broadcast and despite its claims to Documentaries, blockbusters or music videos: (CINEMATIC POST-PRODUCTION MORE THAN JUST BACKGROUND MUSIC - and a huge library of content and tools for sound design and dubbing in film productions.) Sequoia is nowhere near Nuendo.
Though in Nuendo you do have to buy Absolute and Iconica Opus separately.
You can get Nuendo at a discount now because it’s 50% off, and you can get a deeper discount as a crossgrade. $225. What more do you want?
Not sure what you mean by that, but it matters what the brand is when you are trying to attract clients. And some of us use Nuendo for a living.
Rajiv, you can check the page on Steinberg’s website that compares Nuendo with Cubase and look at the section for automation. If it isn’t detailed you can search for pictures of the automation panels and you can see what is missing (or just check operation manuals online).
In addition to that it is said that Cubase has a bug or design difference for Touch mode so that it works differently there, and the same goes for VCAs. Nuendo is correct in both cases, Cubase wrong, arguably.
Based on what I’ve read so far I would never mix post in Cubase simply because of that.
I worried that I would lose some Cubase capabilities when getting the Nuendo license. It would be impossible for me to know that I had lost something until I needed it and it wasn’t there. Steinberg has never given me a reason to fear the fine print, but two other big players have.
When I told customer support about my concerns, they told me that Nuendo was indeed a superset and that I didn’t need to worry. But what sealed the deal was when they said you are not surrendering your Cubase license. You can upgrade it (Cubase Pro 13) to Cubase 14 too, and I plan to. You may have already knew that, but I didn’t.
I mean, it’s a great discount compared to the full price.
I can see, that I would be able to get it for around $235, because I already have Cubase 13 Pro. But this also annoys me. The discount is too tempting, and I feel like if I take it, then I got 2 pieces of software that are very similar. If I don’t take it, it will feel like I lost this unique opportunity to crossgrade.
I’ve already spent around $500 on Steinberg products. And even though I got some crazy good products for that, it’s still a lot of money and it would hurt to spend more money right now.
By the way, where do you get those “$225” from?
That’s an interesting phrase “Bug or Design Differences) Depends in how you see it. The comparison page does highlight Film-mixing style automation, so it’s a feature.
Interesting 
If you don’t really need it then don’t spend the money. Like, if this is a hobby for you then you already have a really fantastic piece of software. Like, really incredible if you think about it. I grew up playing music and then went to school for it and as a player of Jazz and related fields what you can do in Cubase is astonishing - because I when I went to college people were pretty much just using Pro Tools as a recorder and didn’t even mix in it. Forget about things like VSTi of any value.
For a hobbyist it is an insane tool. You can make music with it.
And if you’re doing it for a living it’s just a matter of seeing if the added functionality makes you any more money. It’s just a “simple” calculation to see if it’s worth it.
Store online. Maybe we’re looking in different geographical locations?
I am pulling from memory here but I think the “film-mixing style” refers to some more advanced things like automation passes or whatever they’re called. What I was referring to when I wrote “bug” or “design difference” was how VCA and Touch implementation was different because I don’t think that was done in a way to differentiate the two, I think it was for a different reason; either a mistake and/or by user demand.
That would be because you will still be able to use your Cubase license, for a considerable amount of time.
You lost me there. Please rephrase.
You get to continue using Cubase but if you want to upgrade it, e.g., when a new version comes out, then you will have to pay the upgrade price for the new version, i.e., you won’t continue to be able to use the latest version of both applications, unless they have separate licenses.
What do you mean by “separate licenses”? How can licenses not be separate?
If you crossgrade to Nuendo from Cubase, you will still be able to use Cubase as is, but you won’t be able to upgrade it (Cubase) in future, unless you purchase another license since the original product has been crossgraded.
If you get Nuendo, there is no reason to want for Cubase because it (Nuendo) does everything Cubase does and more, albeit it differently in at least one area, i.e., VCA automation.
I was a Cubase user, and even if I was given a perpetual license to run alongside Nuendo somehow (I can only think a subscription model, which I abhor the thought of) I seriously doubt I would use it, unless there was some exclusive plug-in or some new feature(s) I wanted to test.
I have Nuendo 13, and can’t wait to uninstall 12 so that preferences aren’t copied if I happen to need it (V12) for some reason.
You can, I suppose
It needs more investigation
This honestly smells like deception. So basically they want you to convert your Cubase 13 Pro license into a Nuendo license, which from what I’ve heard, costs double, every time you want to update it. I am really tired of those little traps that the companies place, enticing you to take the bait, so you find yourself in an irriversible position…
And what if I don’t wish to update Nuendo in the future, but only wish to update Cubase, then that option is gone…?
Deceptive? Seems like you’ve finally grasped the difference between a Crossgrade, and loyalty pricing.
What do you mean?
EDIT: Not sure what you mean by “Loyalty” here, but try reading my post here:
If this were a loyalty discount, then of course one would expect you’re just getting Nuendo at a great price with no other conditions, but it’s a crossgrade, which implies giving something up. Not sure where the deception is in that.