Wow-anyone following the MS/Yamaha/Steinberg news? (Steinberg Cubase and Nuendo on Arm64)

It’s a negotiating tactic. They’re in the middle of a lawsuit and this is obviously intended to put additional pressure on Qualcomm. Arm and Qualcomm will of course settle at some point and everyone involved knows they will all make plenty of money, especially the lawyers.

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Quick question Pete,
Will the Windows OS eventually be able to playback Dolby Atmos natively much like the Mac OS does now streaming Apple Music? I’m aware of the HDMI capabilities streaming to a consumer AVR.
Thanks.

For someone who doesn’t know anything about ARM and Qualcomm, what are the main advantages of being able to run Cubase on an ARM system?

Sorry to be ignorant, but I haven’t kept up.

M.

Not sure. I haven’t kept up with that.

I had conversations with Dolby some years ago about this, but I’m not sure where it has gone since then.

Pete

High perf per watt. So longer battery life, less fan noise, thinner/lighter laptops, etc. For desktops, it’ll mean smaller form-factors without loud fans.

And for anything that uses AI and is set to be accelerated by the on-board hardware, the NPU.

Pete

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I actually think this is an avenue worth pursuing. Obviously if cost is a factor I can see how MS or partners might hold back, but if it isn’t I think including this could be really significant.

A lot of content creators trying to produce using Atmos are left without any realtime playback. We can basically create content and export files that are used to create mastered content but we then have no* ability to audition it. I see this topic pop up regularly. And one thing to remember is that regardless of how we feel about Atmos itself it is one way to get more consumers to spend more on content which then trickles down to us creators, something we “should” all be in favor of these days, in my opinion.

Including Atmos decode in either Windows or the Snapdragon would be a relatively big deal I think.

*at a reasonable cost without too many hoops to jump through

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Great…do I now need to buy a new PC?

Thanks Pete.

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Enhanced sleep modes, battery savings and better heat dissipation.

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I hope so!

The ‘preview’ editions of Steinberg products for ARM has its own info/help page (including redirect to actual downloads)…
Preview versions for Windows on Arm (WoA) – Steinberg Support

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Just posted the release notes for Cubase 13.0.50 with info on ARM support

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You don’t need to, but these things are coming and, over the next few years, are going to upset the Intel / AMD apple cart to a degree.
If I can run machines in the studio that perform well, are cooler, less power hungry and produce less noise, I will.

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Full press release here

https://www.steinberg.net/press/2024/windows-on-arm/

Pete

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wow, good news, i wondered when windows PC will go ARM,
i thought tough that intel and AMD will go for it, but i see a new company processor (at least to me) snapDragon !
so basically the benefits are like the transition from intel MAC to ARM mac ?
for me meaning: very low to no fan noise laptops, more powerful, no latency etc…? this is great !
and i red also maybe ASIO in future will finally have the option to use multiplied hardware audio devices simultaneously ?

Source?

Windows supports Arm64 as well as Intel/AMD x64 processors as well as different GPUs from different companies. There are benefits to each for different scenarios and setups, and we like to have (and continue to have) choice.

There are requests for device aggregation in the Microsoft implementation, but that has not been in scope for the initial releases here. It’s under consideration, but not committed in any way. I can’t speak for the ASIO standard itself.

Pete

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thanks for clarification :ok_hand:

Pete clarified it for us

I’m not sure if I’m understanding the true scope of this.

So, if I have a triple play pickup on my guitar, and I buy some (future) tablet with an arm processor (that runs windows), I could run HALion on it and play with those sounds live with acceptable (<7ish ms) latency?

Or am I expecting too much and the whole premise is centered around flagship laptops?

OK, being the tech nerd I am, i purchased a Samsung Galaxy Edge 2024 with snapdragon elite x to run Cubase in Windows Arm. I ran Dom Sigalas’s 3X3 benchmark and I could have 130 tracks, pretty impressive, my Macbook Pro could only handle 110. Of course this just using the Steinberg built in ASIO driver. I have an IX022 coming soon which is supposed d to have actual ARM drivers. My Allen & Heath CQ20B was recognized (no driver) but audio was garbled and useless.
I loaded a project with 24 audio tracks, 8 groups and 8 FX channels (with Steinberg reverbs and delays) as well as Superior Drummer 3, Cherry Audio CR78 and GX80, Kontakt 7 with Grandeur Piano and a bass and the project loaded in 9 seconds and worked perfectly! I had a Donner DMK-25-Pro connected although the latency wasn’t great.
All in all very encouraging though!

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