[1.4.8] Noise Issues when enabling / disabling insert effects

VST Live
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I am trying to replicate the effects of a TC Helicon Voice Live with various vocal plugins in VST Live. For this purpose, I have loaded plugins like Waves Tune Real-Time, Waves Doubler, Waves Harmony, and NI Guitar Rig 6 into the insert effects of a stack. However, when I enable or disable the insert slots automatically while an audio signal is coming in, to have, for example, a doubling effect or a delay only in a specific passage, there is a noticeable crackling sound. This does not happen in Cubase when I turn insert effects on or off via bypass.

For live performance, these noise disturbances would be unacceptable. Is there a solution for this?

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We are working on it. Note that Insert Enable/Disable in VST Live is not a bypass function like in Cubase.

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Is there a solution for this now?

Unfortunately, there is no solution „in one box“ for this application. Or does anyone have an idea?

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Will check. It is more difficult than one may think.
Smooth transition should work when you switch Parts however. Maybe that can do the trick?

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Already tried this, the crackling sound also appears when switching Parts. Thanks for looking at the issue.

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Hello everyone,

Is there anything new about the problem?

LG Tobias

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The problem also persists in version 2.0.0. Can it be estimated when a solution can be expected?

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We are trying to push priority for this.

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Are there any news regarding this topic?

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Is there something new? Can you predict how long it will take to solve the problem?

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We hope to have smooth inserts enable transistions next week.

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It is more complex than expected, but we’re working on it.

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It should be ok with the next version, pls give it a try. Sorry it took so long, as said, it was complicated.

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Great to hear you addressed the problem! Can’t wait to test it out.

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… try it out with version 2.0.29: You can download it here.

/Michael.

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I tried it with version 2.0.29 but unfortunately there are still noticeable noises when switching parts or enabling/disabling the insert effect. Here is a short video using Waves Tune Real-Time.

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You are correct. this is a tricky issue for which we need some more time, it requires some re-structuring, and that means extra careful testing. We hope for next week, thanks for your patience.

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For the next version, we have improved inserts switching fade in/out.
But there is a general problem with certain plugins, because when you enable a plugin (say, chorus), it will start its fade wherever it left off (or initially), and that may cause clicks.
The only possibility to avoiud this is to continue processing inserts even when they are disabled (“Bypass” function). We’ll try to implement that.
Nevertheless give it a try, inserts with dynamics etc may work fine with the upcoming version.

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Hi @musicullum ! If I would have words, would avoid this. Telling you my example:

For certain songs I use AmpliTube for my electric-cello GBLStack, for some I disable and use EQ instead (creating more “natural” sound). If VL keeps processing a Bypassed AmpliTube that will cause me an extra few hundreeds sample latency as AmpliTube is not bypassed under the hood also will put extra job to my CPU.

Please consider my point of view !! :slight_smile:
F

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No latency is introduced when it is disabled. It just keeps on processing w/o any impact whatsoever, just background. The downside is of course that it consumes CPU.