[10.5.0] Transport Panel (F2) still horrible

Sometimes I just use it when I’ve got 100 VST windows in front of my main Cubase window blocking everything… doesn’t happen often though.

In any case, I must agree that the new F2 panel is fugly. :mrgreen:

It’s not relevant what options one prefers? it’s relevant that one can only see half of them because after this we run out of space. And furthermore, it’s just darn stupid to offer selectable options you won’t be able to see? If you choose to use this type of toolbar you should program that, once all space has been taken, other options will get grayed out! But better, you should let us choose to scale vertically expand and stack (group) comparable options on top of each other so we will always be able to see everything that we selected?

In Cubase 10, I don’t use any functions in it any more because it’s unusable, which is why I’m mainly still using Cubase 9.5

But I see where this is going, i.e. the argument will be that there are other ways to do things and therefore we might as well get rid of it altogether. This would appear to be the logic the junior apprentice programmer used when let loose on the source code during the job experience programme last year.

The C9-era floating Transport Panel could be moved, expanded, switched on and off easily. You could move it to where your eyes are on the screen. It didn’t have to take up screen real estate at the bottom, meaning you have a higher vertical workspace. If you have the Windows taskbar set to auto-hide, having to use the fixed Transport Bar at the bottom means you’ll inadvertantly unhide the taskbar most of the time. The fixed transport at the top is too far away, both to operate and to watch the time display.

But worst of all, it’s just plain broken … when fully expanded, it won’t fit on a standard FHD screen. How could this have passed beta testing?

They’ve had since 10.0 to fix what is widely recognised as a horrible mistake in the GUI and have done absolutely sweet FA. I can only surmise that they’ve chosen to keep it as is out of spite. Or at least it feels like that. How can they possibly not consider this an utter misstep??

This transport is perfect. Take no action Cubase

Thats exactly how I would do it.
This way those who like the new panel could keep it as it is (long and thin) and those who liked the old panel could customize any way they want
…and yeah the old C9 transport panel was good but I’ve got a feeling ist not coming back anymore

You’re probably not talking about the same thing if you think that. Nobody wants any changes made to the Transport Bar at the bottom of the screen, this refers to the Transport Panel which is activated by F2 and floats over all other screens. Most recent users of Cubase don’t seem to even know it exists. See the graphic in the first post of this thread.

That is definitely an issue

+1 (again…)

As it is unlikely that the old transport panel ever comes back I tried some workaround to simulate it combining both the bottom panel and the F2 panel (see attached pic).
This way it is at least possible to “group” the transport buttons with the song position.
Overall I find it this way a little bit more compact and with a kind of “Old Transport Feeling” :wink:

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… but we shouldn’t have to struggle to find a workaround for a feature that was needlessly broken.

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Sorry to rain on your parade MrSoundman. But this issue also applies to the fixed lower bar and also the upper one! It just wont scale on a normal 1920X1080 screen! Having all the options available blanks out others. You can only have them visible by disabling others!
Software wise one should at least inform when all space has been taken and no other items can be added? But “Cubase” allows you to add everything and then you discover that you can’t see them! And there is no way to manipulate this other than removing items until there is enough space to display the selection you want to see! If you have all options available on the floating bar it takes more than 1.5 24’ screen to display this all. So it makes sense why it wont fit on the fixed upper and lower bars? Not very 2019ísh! And I expected this to be fixed in this latest upgrade? But to my regret, it still wasn’t!

Rain away!

I have to admit that I submitted a few feature requests to allow the functions for the old floating transport panel to be on the project screen (scalable) top toolbar so that I would not have to use the old floating tp. So I am happy when I combine the available options on the top taskbar and the newer lower zone transport bar. Using them both gives me everything needed for me to eliminate the floating transport panel which for me took up too much space on my one screen home studio setup. Nice.

But, I have to admit that the new floating transport panel is not good for those who like to use it. The design should have been left as it was just prior to CB 9 or improved as mentioned in this topic. Not sure why it was changed but, at this time, it is lame.

Regards. :sunglasses:

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I still have no idea. Mine works perfect. No complaints here

We’re going around in circles here. If you’ve never used it, fine. If you didn’t even know it was there, fine.
If you haven’t used Cubase prior to version 10, you won’t even know what we’re talking about.

But why then argue for getting rid of something that many, many long-time users have had since the Atari days?

There was nobody hopping up and down annoyed that it has existed for the past 30 years. Why was it fubared?

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This will likely be my last post on this topic. I do agree that the previous F2 Transport was superior to this “ribbon style” but it seems there’s no thought about restoring it or re-coding a similar one for new versions of Cubase. I think it was an error. The “old” F2 Transport was easier to work with and looked better, it also fit neatly into all editors. I used it a lot. I liked the markers, etc. …

That said, this one issue does not outweigh all the improvements made in Version 10. Any workflow functions I used F2 for are, to be fair, easily available in the program. I don’t “like” the ribbon, but it’s not a big issue in comparison to the updates made to Cubase.

I don’t like skinny scroll bars either, but it seems wide ones are never going to be offered as a preference or a hard code. :frowning:

On the other hand we finally have the ‘do not activate’ project automatically.

Anyway, we tried, but at this point I’m moving on. The side-chain in Ver 10.0.4 alone is worth the trade off and I could go on like that about is better in Ver 10. Too bad about F2. Maybe the next iteration will be more to our liking. And some people actually like the ribbon.

Take care :slight_smile:

No they don’t – they only think they do :stuck_out_tongue: mainly because they’ve never seen it, or never used it, or are confusing it with the Transport Bar at the bottom. Anyhoo … yes, it looks like it’s gone forever. I can even imagine the C++ class in the code that is being used for both the Bar and the Panel and I guess that’s ultimately why the change was made – code reduction.

This practice of making unannounced changes that nobody asked for and then staying stumm on the matter is not inspiring, however.

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When I started with Cubase Pro 8 and joined the forums people were asking for “restoration” of things from earlier versions. I didn’t really get it. Now I do. Since it was all new to me, I just accepted what was there and worked with it. I think that’s what’s going on with the possible increase of brand new users or converts as a result of the fire sale. I hope that worked because Cubase for half price was pretty bold.

We are right about this regardless :slight_smile: take care. :slight_smile:

I don’t like it. It looks like Cubase 6, never liked the transport buttons, never! In V9 is was so good. Nuendo 10 has the same ugly buttons. Could prevent me from updating. Should have looked closer before updating CB.
An option to choose “old style” would be great. Really. I miss it.