I’m in 6/4 but I need to notate it as 3 groups of 2, so half notes on beats 3 and 5 are notated as half notes and not tied quarters. I tried Force Duration but I’m having no luck.
TIA
I’m in 6/4 but I need to notate it as 3 groups of 2, so half notes on beats 3 and 5 are notated as half notes and not tied quarters. I tried Force Duration but I’m having no luck.
TIA
Or 3/2 (which it actually is)
I considered 3/2 but the tempo would be too slow.
Huh?
Tempo is not related to time signature.
Yes it is.
3/2 gives me a half-note beat. 6/4 gives me a Q-note beat. A half-note beat equaling the same pacing as the Q-note beat would be half as fast, which in this case would be 29 bpm.
My initial question was answered and I’m all set.
Yes, I understand that both meters have the same number of Q-notes but I obviously wasn’t confused about that. I’ve already explained the affect meter has on tempo—3/2 (29 bpm) gets the half; 6/4 gets the Q (58 bpm)—so if you don’t understand then you don’t understand.
Yes, I’m aware of other notation options as to meter and tempo and beats, there are plenty, but I’m not willing to share the immediate context of this section of music to convince anyone that things are okay. In contemporary music, metric subdivisions are more malleable than they are in traditional ones and tradeoffs are made to avoid other unwanted notations.
I’m very busy and I don’t want to have a fruitless discussion about it.
Hi @MusiComPublishing, this Playback Options would give you the same metronom beat on quarter notes (with slight differentiate accents for 6/4 and 3/2, because of the grouping 3+3 vs 2+2+2, whose intensity you can also customise adjusting the velocities in the same dialogue)
Playback of the metronome beat:
I think MusiComPulishing is talking about the beat for the players, rather than the speed at which Dorico plays it, or Dorico’s metronome. They have a tempo of q=58 and want to keep the feel on quarters.
There are two schools of thought how to interpret the denominators of a time signature. In concert/church music a signature of 3/2 (in my experience) means three half-notes (minims) to the bar, not three beats to the bar; but in shows where “jazz” musicians were playing, I was more likely to hear the interpretation that 3/2 meant a half-note beat.
That seems inconsistent in that, not only does 6/8 generally suggest two beats to the bar rather than six, but 5/8 also tends to suggest two uneven beats to the measure rather than five.
I do think it’s worth noting that I often see 6/4 used incorrectly to mean 3/2, which is confusing to those of us who take the notation of music and its conventions at face value — though of course there are exceptions. I don’t know the specific details of the OP’s needs here, but in general I would just agree with others on this thread that in most cases, three half notes in a bar MEANS 3/2, not 6/4.
Shoulda thought of that before involving all of us nerds in it ![]()
As I said, I know what the meters mean. Everything is fine. I’m not inclined to show the context. As I said, I’m busy. Original question answered.
I note that you do not show the key signature; perhaps that would have been helpful, if not supporting your premise.
As it happens, 6/4 is actually a compound duple meter, meaning the beat-level pulse proper is the dotted half, not the quarter.
I realize you’re very busy, but thought I might offer this to help clarify.
Yes, I know what the meter is called. Dotted-half is an option. And Q is another. It comes down to tempo.
The time signature is 6/8|2/4 (America from WSS). The tempo does not change - only the rhythm.
So, it is an entirely different issue.
I wonder if the OP considers hemiolas a change of tempo?