I imported a piano piece from a MIDI file originally created in Logic. Playback is surprisingly accurate, sounding very much like the original Logic project (short of a few sustain pedal inaccuracies). However, the “grace notes” (a series of 64th notes before “beat one” of the measure) does not display these notes. It displays as a Dotted Half Note in the Bass Clef, and as a tied 16th note, just after a 16th note rest in the treble clef (as if the notes have been quantized). However, they playback and are heard correctly. I have a video with audio of this, but is apparently it too large to post here. I have provided a screen shot. The grace notes occur just before bar 5 and as you can see, these notes are not visible (wish I could provide the audio, but trust me, it plays back fine). I have done extensive web searches and cannot find anything that helps, so I am dead in the water. Any idea how I might correct this?
Note *As an interesting side note, when the file was imported as a Music XML file, the notes were displayed. However, since XML does not import tempo map info, it was completely unusable for my application. Also, the notes are displayed in the Logic “Score Page”, but Logic is so abysmally useless for Notation… I have turned to Dorico for a “real notation” platform
The MIDI file will display according to your quantization options (try making a selection then doing edit>requantize…). Whereas the xml file will display according to the xml notation information.
Beside the suggestion by @Janus, consider that Dorico has two visualisations in the key editor: Played Durations and Notated Durations. You can compare the two and see if you can take advantage of this. And please, consider uploading the Dorico file here (and possibly the Logic file), for us to see the exact context, and help further. (See this important thread for some further information)
I tried this, but there is no option for 64th notes (only 32nd notes). Also, it kind of worked, but did some really weird ties, and DID NOT requantize in the bar ahead of the down-beat (the note the “rolled chord" or appoggiatura was intended to play before). This being said, if at LEAST the notes were displayed (even if in the same bar as the intended target note for the appoggiatura, I could use the Grace Note Tool in Dorico’s tool box to make it work and displayed correctly. I will upload the Dorico File In a moment. Here is an old manuscript with similar “grace notes” (appoggiatura or rolled chord if preferred) I am trying to notate (circled in red):
I read this, but it appears this is for “Piano Roll”? I don’t think this applies to my issue. I will upload the Dorico file in a moment. Also, here is the notation in Logic. If I could get Dorico to at least display the 64th notes (in the bar as Logic has), I could use the “Grace Note” tool in the tool box to create what I need;
… also, as I mentioned previously, the XML import is not satisfactory for my application, because tempo map is not imported in XML. So, I must use imported MIDI file from Logic
In Bar 5 I would call it an arpeggio, and not “grace notes”.
After requantizing the bar with eight notes, adding a dot to the fourth in the right hand, and adding an arpeggio sign, the playback remains the same, but is a much clearer/easy visualisation for the player:
These are notes not counted as part of the bar, but handled the same way as a grace note. They are usually indicated on the staff as “smaller notes” before the targeted note (in a similar fashion as a grace note).
Grace note, Appoggiatura and Arpeggio are three different things/musical concepts.
Not sure what your question/desired result is. Sorry if I misunderstand.
If I could simply have the notes displayed as played and heard form the MIDI file, we’d be there (just like the Logic example I uploaded). I could highlight the notes, and then use the Grace Note Tool in Dorico’s tool box. But, Dorico not displaying what was played in the MIDI file, this procedure cannot be done. I simply need Dorico to display what was played in notation (yes… even the 64th notes) But piano roll is not what I am looking for. I will import the XML and show you an example. Sorry if this is coming across confusing, but this is all extremely difficult to explain other than the way I am attempting to do it. So, let me do the import XML and show you an example (but remember, I mentioned that using the XML is not applicable for my application because tempo map is not imported)
The second example (after using Dorico’s Grace Note Tool) is what I am after. But, if the 64th notes are not displayed in the score after importing the MIDI file (even though they CAN be heard), I cannot do this.
For Nr.1 in Notated Duration view, with Locked Played Durations, and the grid for the key editor set to 32th note values, I dragged the single notes to be only 32th, then I added a 6:4y tuplet to them (6 32th in place of 4 32th), I applied cross-staff for the upper Cb, and added the chord and the ties. I then adjusted a little the Played durations, to be nearly as the original (because the playback position changed despite locking the played durations, probably as a consequence of adding the tuplet)
For. Nr.2 I wrote the grace notes (inputting them as new notes, before the chord, not transforming existing notes to grace notes), and suppressed their playback, then added the ties. (the playback is 100% original).
Just so you know, I have not been able to respond because, being my first day on the support page, the amount of responses are limited (it said “thanks for your enthusiasm, but you have surpassed your daily replies” . Let me study this a bit. I will be honest, that I am completely new to Dorico, so it’s not exactly something I understand (but slowly getting a bit of it “under my hat”). Thank you. Will reply more after examining this a bit
. Let me study this a bit. I will be honest, that I am completely new to Dorico, so it’s not exactly something I understand (but slowly getting a bit of it “under my hat”). Thank you. Will reply more after examining this a bit