When I go from to multiple wind parts to unison (e.g., a2, a3), I put a2 or a3 as text above the staff.
Since this is just text, Dorico does not seem to recognize it and continues to add rests for the missing part(s). An editor red-penciled this on my score.
Can I tell Dorico to stop adding adding rests during unison sections (a2, a3, etc.)?
Note: I understand this would probably not be an issue if I had entered separate parts and then condensed, but that is not how I did this.
you can delete rests all you want, but quite honestly, your “not how I do this” is only going against how Dorico works, and will simply give you lots of extra work to do.
Can you use a “end voice” at the end of the split part?
I was new to Dorico and imported a MIDI file from a DAW. I am not determined to do things in a non-Dorico manner in the future, but I already have this and really don’t have time to re-enter the whole score. There is a performance deadline. (I bought and completed two training courses before starting, but the implications of this decision were not addressed. I had to find out by doing.)
For now, I’d like to hide or delete the unwanted rests.
I will look into “end voice.” That sounds promising.
It would take you just a few keystrokes to split each part into two, and let Dorico work its magic.
@Janus ,OK, thanks. I’ll have to research how to do that.
I would need to fix these parts:
• Two flutes on one staff
• Two clarinets on one staff
• Four horns on two staves (I, II and III, IV).
• Two trombones on one staff
If you ever intend for humans to play the piece, you will need those separate parts for them. This is what the condensing feature is for.
Are the parts separate or is it both parts on one layout?
How much work it is, depense a bit on how you wrote those 2 parts into on staff.
If the first flute is always in the upstem voice 1 and the flute 2 always downstem voice 2:
- set filter to deselect
- create 2 new flute players make sure they next to each other in the score.
- Select original staff → filter down-stem voice 1 → duplicate to staff below (this will be the new flute 1)
- Select original staff → filter up-stem voice 1 → duplictae to staff below → move to staff below (this will be the new flute 2)
- duplicate all a2 passage to new flute 2
If you work with the deselect filter and two new flute staffs, you could automatically copy all dynamics, text, etc. too, otherwise you need to to this separately.
If all notes are in the same voice, you might use filter top/single notes and bottom/single notes. You will lose dynamics, etc. But you always can filter deselect notes the original staff and duplicate it to the new ones.
How fast it is in the end also depends, if you run into condensing issues, how finished the layouts are etc. But this is something, that only you will know. Maybe you can share just the flute part or excerpt of it?
I just had to do this for a 20 minute work for large orchestra.
It took about an hour and a half.
Thanks very much. I should be able to do that. I believe I have them as up stem Voice 1 and down stem Voice 1. That seems easier than hiding/deleting all the rests, and this way I will have the players’ parts in good shape.
The piece is under 6:30 and the woodwinds don’t play constantly.
My favorite thing about splitting combined parts is that when you use Alt-M to move the down-stem notes down a staff, they become up-stem! (i.e. “the first voice active on that staff” as it says in the docs)
Thank you. I had some other things to address so tonight I am going to split out the flute parts.
Flute 1 is V1 Upstem and Flute 2 is V1 Downstem so it should be easy to use the filter to select and copy the right notes. (I have used filters before to change voices.)
I’m not clear, however, what you mean about using deselect to copy dynamics markings. If you can explain without too much trouble, I’d really appreciate it. Otherwise, I can do that manually,
PS I’m also going to do this for horns which are currently on two staves, two horns per staff.
I don’t have my computer in front of me.
But the idea is this:
If you just filter the voice you need, all the dynamics, slures, playing techniques, etc won‘t be selected and not be copied. If you select everything and use a negative filter to deselect the voice you don’t need, the dynamic, etc will stay selected.
I can’t test it now, but i guess staff text is the only thing that won’t work, because it’s always attached to a specific note.