Accidentals In Chord Symbols Not Following Font Choice

Hi, I’m a new Dorico user, and I’m struggling to set Dorico up to have a consistent handwritten jazz font for the chord symbols.

I would be greatly appreciative if someone could point out how to do this.

Steps to Reproduce

  • Dorico 5.0.20, MacOS
  • Open the Clocks example file
  • Use Library > Music Fonts... to change font to Finale Jazz

Expected Behaviour

All characters in the chord symbols should now be in a handwritten font.

Actual Behaviour

The flat symbol (and also the sharp symbol if I add one) are still in a typeset font that does not match the handwritten font of the letters/numbers (see screenshot).

Go to Library > Font Styles and check the Chord Symbols Music Text font style: try setting it to Finale Jazz Text.

Oh, and welcome to the forum, Tim!

Thank you for such a quick response!

Unfortunately, this makes the accidentals disappear entirely.

If that worked for you, it might just be a case of an incorrectly installed font on my end. If that’s the case, I’ll give reinstalling everything a go.

Ah, hang on, sorry for the bum steer, Tim. If I remember rightly, Finale Jazz Text doesn’t have the necessary chord symbols accidental range from SMuFL implemented. You might have to settle for choosing Petaluma Text, whose accidentals don’t look exactly like Finale Jazz’s accidentals, but at least look handwritten.

Ah now worries. That’s perfectly fine. I’ll stick with Petaluma for the whole thing.

Thanks for your help!

You can —yet— use Finale Jazz instead.

Apologies for hijacking this thread (not sure if I should start a new one) but I have a similar question with the LS Iris font. Is that also a case where the accidentals needed for chord symbols are different than those used in staff notation? I thought the font was SMuFL compatible, but I’m not totally sure.

The font will need to have the Standard Accidentals for Chord Symbols SMuFL range. If a font is missing those, I think you’ll end up needing a doricolib hack to redefine where Dorico looks for those glyphs.

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Thank you @FredGUnn

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SMuFL compatible means that the glyphs in the font are in the expected Unicode places. It doesn’t means it has ALL the glyphs.

A font could have 3 noteheads, 3 clefs, a few flags and 6 articulations, and still be “SMuFL”.

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Thanks, that makes sense. I knew the LS Iris font didn’t have the complete glyphs of, say, Bravura. I just didn’t realize that the accidentals for chord symbol alterations were different. But it makes total sense that they would have to be.

Sorry, I’m about to leave and don’t have time to do it, but the location Dorico looks for these is defined in the factory glyphs.xml file. The two sharps used are below for example:

You’ll notice that the ED62 codePoint matches the sharp in that Standard Accidentals for Chord Symbols range. You could create a doricolib file to change that location to point to a glyph that the LS Iris font has. (I assume, I don’t actually have time to try it.)

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As a follow-up to my original question. It looks like the missing glyphs for Finale Ash, Finale Jazz, Finale Broadway were added in Dorico 5.1 and everything looks correct now.

I don’t think the fonts were changed, so the improvement may be in correctly substituting another font when the glyph is missing.

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Ah, yes. On closer inspection, it is using the glyph from Petaluma.