Adobe fonts annoyance

This has happened in the past, but suddenly it’s happening every time I try to start Dorico 5. I use Adobe fonts such as Arno Pro. When I start Dorico it can’t find the Adobe font. It’s really annoying. The only fix I have found is to delete the font in question from my computer using Creative Cloud interface and reinstall it. One could hardly say this is the most convenient of situations. It takes a ling time, and beside, this should not be necessary to say the least.

It does not appear to be any of the issues discussed here last year:

Is the font installed using Adobe’s font management system, rather than using FontBook or some other local font manager?

Do other apps see the font? What about other Qt-based apps, like MuseScore?

If it’s through Adobe’s font system, then I’d suggest contacting them. (That’s what you’re paying them for!)

Arno Pro was bundled with Creative Suite software, back in the day. If you have an old copy of Photoshop, etc, from before Adobe Cash Cow™, you should have the font you can use ‘natively’.

I certainly have no problem using Arno Pro, installed in my user fonts folder, with Dorico.


Apropos of nothing, I recently subscribed to Adobe, for a project that required InDesign, and I was extremely disappointed by the fonts in its collection. None of the ‘classic’ Monotype, ITC, or ATF cuts seemed to be available, and they were all ‘boutique’ generic styles, or wacky and niche. (Apart from the Adobe Originals, which I already have from CS6, as mentioned.)

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Oh man o man. This may be something totally unexpected. I purchased Avast Cleanup Premium for my Windows 11 computer. I should know better. These things often cause havoc. It has some optimization function whereby it puts background programs to sleep. I think this is interfering with the Adobe Creative Cloud font loading mechanism. Explicitly telling that program not do sleep those process seems to have solved it. Dear me. As I had a hunch, nothing to do with Adobe or Steinberg. I shall monitor for further misbehaviour.

Let other mortals be warned! :slight_smile:

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In my experience, apps that claim to “clean” your computer are often the cause of as much trouble as they intend to fix. That’s certainly the case on the Mac side.

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Yes, as I said, I should have known better!

I just inherited an indesign subscription at my new job and I was shocked that indesign cannot natively open or edit a pdf. It requires plugins, apparently, and you first have to create a blank document and place the pdf inside page by page. This is so asinine as to be absurd. Back to affinity I go…

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It’s true, but that “feature” causes severe instability for lager projects with many PDFs, presumably because Affinity is interacting with all the PDFs rather than just placing them on the page. Acrobat Pro is for editing the PDFs, InDesign is for placing them on the page.

My experience has been quite different. I came to Affinity with the Dorico-informed “learn it from scratch the right way” and invested many hours in the APub ecosystem. After two disastrous projects with many lost hours of work and one very unhappy client (and hours on the forums and with tech support), I couldn’t get back to ID quickly enough.

I hate that ID is subscription. Highway robbery. But everything else I find quite excellent. The program is powerful and mature. To each his own!

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Adobe likes to think of PDFs as fairly immutable, and their forums are filled with comments from staff saying “go back to the originating app and export another PDF”. Though of course you can edit PDFs in Illustrator well enough.

I was definitely placing PDFs on the page in ID 10-20 years ago; and I seem to remember that you could open images in Illustrator or Photoshop to edit them (from a right click, IIRC).

I’m not that thrilled with Affinity’s “opening” of PDFs, either. It still gets things wrong, compared to a rendered image – and if you’re trying to convert a PDF to a bitmap in Photo, you get the ‘wrongness’ from the interpreted result, rather than the rendered result.

Have you seen my recent post on the subject? Affinity 2 seems much more stable with many pages, and you can place PDFs easily, rather than ‘open’ them.

I’m glad to hear it! Not sure how I missed that post. I’ve sort of just resigned myself to remaining with InDesign though. I would need to see AP have demonstrable success with extremely large projects (over a thousand pages) with no lag and no crashing.


I do sometimes have instability issues after a few lager projects, myself.

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lol “why is all of my music playing back as swing??”