One player should play Timpani and Glockenspiel, so it would be fine, that at the beginning of the score, when normally full instrumental names are displayed, the system could be named as »Timpani and Glockenspiel« – no matter that the Timpani begins and Glockenspiel is used somewhen later.
Now I just get displayed »Timpani«, because Timpani starts – and I cannot figure out any solution to show every instrument at the beginning.
If you’re talking about the top left corner of the first page of the part, then go to Setup mode, double-click on the relevant part in the right panel and type Timpani and Glockenspiel. Hit Enter.
If you mean in staff labels to the left of the initial barline, you’ll have to edit the instrument name of the starting instrument - Dorico automatically shows the name of individual instruments in staff labels, it doesn’t automatically combine them when a solo player holds multiple instruments. However, as Leo has said, you can show all the relevant instruments in parts using the layout name (which should appear automatically, as the layout name is linked to the player name by default, and the player name is automatically built up based on the instruments held by the player)
Thx. But no, I’m talking of the score itself. If I do, what you are suggesting, I just have the correct name for the part, but still not a »full name« as a instruments list at the beginning of the score. Please look here:
You can see the setup mode and the beginning of the score. The Player called »Glockenspiel & Pauke« (Timpani = Pauke) should play Timpani and later on Glockenspiel. But starting with Pauke, the staff in the score is called Pauke – but not »Glockenspiel & Pauke" in order to show all instruments needed.
This doesn’t make sense to me, since Pauke now is called Pauke & Glockenspiel, which means that in every situation the player should switch to Pauke, Dorico shows both instrument’s names, Pauke & Glockenspiel.
Or am I too stupid?
Yes, this isn’t really what instrument names are intended for but you can manipulate them to suit your requirements. If you want both instrument names in the staff label (and you can put them on 2 lines in the Edit Instrument Names dialog if you like), then because Dorico treats whatever is set in that dialog as “the instrument name”, it’ll be used wherever the instrument name is used. You can edit instrument change labels manually - I guess it’s up to you to decide whether that’s something you’re happy to do, or if you want to leave the staff labels as default.
That means: I rename the first instrument used to the full instruments list, then later in the layout options I force Dorico to show the individual short names for instrument changes. I didn’t figure out how to change the instrument change labels manually.
So, as I see, there is no possibility to show the full name for instrument change labels any more, if I want to keep abbreviated names for the score pages 2, 3, … Correct?
For instrument change labels, select them in Engrave mode - you’ll see an “Instrument Changes” group in the Properties panel. You can “Hide prefix” (i.e. the "To " bit) and enter “Custom text”.
Oh, thats very easy! Its a lot of work, but easy. Thank you!
BTW: There is a bug in the german localisation of the instruments change: You can choose »Nehmen Sie« which means »Take«. The result should be e.g. »Nehmen Sie Piccolo« (Take Piccolo). But the displayed result is »Nehmen Piccolo« (»Sie« is missing) which is grammatically on the level of my own english grammar.
Ok, in order to have a proper german grammar, every single instrument change has to be written manually (Nehmen Sie das Piccolo, Nehmen Sie die Kastagnetten, …) anyway.
Hi Lillie, are there any changes regarding this on Dorico 5?
Basically I want the the first staff of the score to show all percussion instruments that will be used by each player (in this case, 2 per player), instead of only showing the name of one instrument.
I can change the full name of the first instrument:
Don’t change the instrument name. In layout options, you can chose to show the player name with an option to use it in the first system only.
You can adjust the player name in setup mode by right clicking on the player and choosing „change name“, where you can change both long and short name.
A solution I found is to change the full name of the first instrument as in the example I showed above and then change the part name like this:
On the right list on Setup Mode, select the instrument => right click => rename so the name of the other instrument(s) doesn’t appear twice on the part name.
That said, I am interested in understanding your solution. When you say “In layout options, you can chose to show the player name with an option to use it in the first system only”, do you mean
However, your solution may be better if I can understand how to do it.
I did this:
I meant in the full score layout. You have selected the part layout in your screenshot, not the full score. Try to apply this setting at the full score layout.
Additionally, if I want to use the Tubular Bells first on the piece but for the label let Glockenspiel written fist (as it is higher in pitch), I put the Tubular Bells first in the order, but it also appears first on the label.
So, I guess the only option to achieve both things is changing the full name of the instrument and the player’s name, so it looks like this:
As I said you can right click the player and change the player name to anything you like, so while tubular bells come first, you can nem the player „Glockenspiel and Tubular Bells“.
But I recognize that the like break is an issue.
If you write out the instrument names that you want in the player name in an external text editor, with appropriate line breaks, those breaks are retained when you paste the chunk into the player name field(s) in the Rename Player dialog.
This should solve your issues, whilst keeping each instrument independently named (ie no need to rename the first instrument to include multiple instruments in its name)
The instrument change labels shown at the start of the flow correspond to the first instrument that has notes.
Have you double-checked you haven’t got an extra line break at the start of the player name?
Although the spacing looks a bit different than that anyway, so it’s possible I’m forgetting or missing something (I’m away from Dorico at the moment so can’t investigate much further, I’m afraid).
Also, I would prefer that those instrument names over the staff were a little further to the left. I can do it manually on Engrave Mode, but is there an automatic way to do it?
