Alto Trombone in orchestral score order

The trombones in the symphonic orchestra and in opera literature. When alto trombone is used, it plays the highest part in trombone trio or quartet.
Dorico’s orchestral score order places trombones like this:
TENOR-ALTO-BASS.
Have to pull the alto up manually, which changes the order of players to ‘none’.
I understand that alto trombone is not frequently used nowadays in the orchestra but because the opera houses have it available anyway I am using it so I stumbled upon this issue.

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You can of course edit the Instrument Score Orders to whatever you want, and save it as a default.

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Thank you. Typical newbie - I did not think of that, I remember reading about it in the online manual.

Is there a reason why the Tenor Trombone is above the Alto Trombone in Dorico’s default score order? While there’s a workaround, that seems like a setting that should be changed, though the priority to change this would be quite low.

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Perhaps the thinking was that the alto trombone would be picked up as an extra instrument by the 2nd or 3rd player just as English Horn also doubles as the second or third oboe player and the Piccolo as the second or third flute player.

It’s safe to say that whatever decision the Team made was done after some thought.

…the doubling idea does not hold. Without doubling instruments, the normal score order is still piccolo above regular flute. Or alto trb above tenor.

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It’s very kind of you to give us the benefit of the doubt, but in this case I think this really is a mistake, and we’ll make sure it gets fixed.

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That’s something I noticed too and my workaround (totally wrong, I admit!) was to only use alto and bass trombones, because I couldn’t think that was a mistake! Thank you for admitting this, Daniel, as usual! :pray::pray::pray:

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post deleted due to brain fart!

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@bkshepard https://www.tonkunstler-on-the-bund.com/research/shifrin/
The highest voice in the trombone choir was not the 2nd.

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After all, @MarcLarcher, who needs tenors, right…???:smirk::smile:

You are absolutely correct. I was conflating two different issues in my brain and misspoke. :grinning: