Any chance old instruments - Mystic, Prologue, Spector - come back updated?

I really like Cubase’s Padshop and Retrologue, I own the latest version of Halion.

But I also appreciated very much a different palette of sounds offered by these “ugly” beasts, which were removed around v12/13.

Is there a chance they’ll come back? With updated features & looks?

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It would be nice to upscale their graphics.

Steinberg does not seem to have the knowledge to simple upscale plugins as other companies have.

This statement remains valid until proven otherwise.

I’d bet NO!

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Are there actually any plugins from Steinberg, that can scale up the graphics?

I wonder, why they miss such basic features in 2025?

Maybe the underlying codebasis is 20+ years old and noone is able to refit the code?

They were made by a 3rd party developer for Steinberg

The good news is Absynth 6 is being released in a few hours

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Chance is close to zero.

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Some (all?) developed, owned completely by Virsyn. Go ask them :slight_smile:

Seems Virsyn claims their current vsti choices sound the same/better than when they were licensing to Steinberg. I myself have never tried any of them on the old Cubendos.

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All stock effect plug-ins now support user-interface scaling.

Due to technical reasons, the following plug-ins don’t support Plug-in Scaling:

  • VST Amp Rack

  • VST Bass Amp

  • Ambi Decoder

  • LoopMashFX

  • VST Connect 5

  • Retrologue 2

  • HALion Sonic 7

  • Padshop 2

I believe he @Sunnyman means something different.
User.interface scaling is the ability to set the resolution of the window, to make it readable with higher DPI settings. Same content in a bigger or smaller window.
I think he means user interface resize without scaling the content. But this isn’t useful for the majority of the stock plugins.
UI scaling on the other hand is very useful!

It’s about plugins and scaling up.

A plugin window that’s simply enlarged with empty space wouldn’t be useful.

UI scaling is the keyword here, indeed. Thx.

Why does Steinberg not implement this? We are in the year 2025, not 2005 anymore.

What are those technical reasons?

Old code?

Than put it inside a container and rescale there. That’s not rocket science.

Steinberg probably means that it will take some time before all plugins are modified in this regard. I don’t think that their flagship VSTi will be excluded from this feature.

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How many years are the customers waiting for this already? 2, 5, 10,…

I don’t know. But I’ve been missing this feature since I started using 4K monitors, which was about 10 years ago. Steinberg, as progressive as they are in other areas, is definitely lagging behind in this particular field.

Actually it is.

Unlike Reason’s Rack Extensions format, VST plugins are their own separate applications with code for i/o (audio, midi, internet access), file management (presets, samples, etc.), DSP processing and GUI rendering. You can’t just put it in container & upscale it, otherwise DAWs would’ve been doing that for years.

It’s something that has to be built-in into a VST plugin, especially the Windows versions because MacOS handles that quite well - not perfect - on its own somehow.

As a customer, I do not care.

Just look, what other companies can do.

Steinberg is declining.

3 to 5 years from now and they are history.

lmfao huh?

Steinberg has done stuff 30 years ago other companies still haven’t done.

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@Sunnyman You have hijacked the original topic from the start and insisted on doing so. Please open a separate thread.

Indeed, they make a pitch shifter with far to high latency in their latest update from Cubase….great job, well done! And btw, still no feedback loops are possible in Cubase.

(“Steinberg has done stuff 30 years ago other companies still haven’t done” - LOL)

Sorry! This is not something, one can expect in 2025.

And so is UI upscaling.