Hi everybody,
What would be good and affordable controller recommendations for the VST MultiPanner for mixing in 3D?
Regards,
radiophonic1963
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Would be interested, too. Up to now I use a combination of simple mouse control for the X/Y-plane and a MIDI controller for Z. I can use them at the same time with both hands.
For straight-forward MIDI control the Panner misses a view targets, e.g. the “Orbit Center”, which is a dedicated knob in the GUI, but always recorded as combination of L/R and Front/Rear-Pan, which makes it impossible to use the conventional QC mapping.
What about the Arteffect http://devices.arteffect.de/sr-panner.html?
Fredo
… Love the website where they talk about “Sterinberg’s (sic!) Nuendo or Cubase”.
Anyway: Looks interesting, though I don’t see any obvious way to control X,Y and Z with a single device. Do you know how much they sell it for?
I’m pretty sure that Peter can re-program one of the soft knobs so it controls the height.
Last thing I’ve heard is that it sells for around 950€.
Fredo
And what about this one?
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Yeah, I’ve looked at it, too - thanks. Doesn’t look like a motorized joystick, though, which makes it hard to pick-up from existing automation …
Have to dissapoint you, because there aren’t any.
Motorized Joysticks are patented by Harrison (made by P&G though), so you won’t find them in any device, unless they have licenced/bought them from Harrison. Which makes them insanely expensive.
Fredo
I already had a feeling that I’ll stick to my tried-and-tested two-handed approach. 
The so-called “Surround Panel” of the Neve Capricorn I worked on for many years had a quite smart combination of two joy-sticks and an animated graphical display for showing existing automation passes, but as a matter of fact I rarely touched them and used ITB solutions instead.
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The Arteffect products look interesting.
Maybe I also should share some of my own ideas as well.
What I’ve been thinking about is doing a small system based on something like a Doepfer A-174-4 Joystick with MIDI-conversion or something more plain like an Xbox One , PS4/PS5 (because of their touch pad) or a Switch Pro controller (because of it’s gyro). But I’m not sure whether the last to would work readily with Nuendo.
Would there be any major drawbacks with those?
Has anyone tried Sound Particles new “Space Controller” Plug-in. Using your smartphone as a joystick. Might be worth a trial.
Tim
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Wow! “Space Controller” looks very enticing. Thanks for the hint, it’s the first time I hear about that concept.
My main problem might be that my system assembler has forbidden any kind of WiFi device on my DAW, but adding a Bluetooth receiver shouldn’t be that hard. 
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Hi all,
am also quite interested in such controller. But couldn’t find one so far any close on functionality and/or price.
Spent some time to build my own GUI with TouchOSC running on a 10" Android tablet. Interfaces via a couple of Generic-Remotes being added to Nuendo.Works quite good.
You can handle multiple parameters by simultaneously touching with multiple fingers the different touch areas (parameters). E.g. X/Y, height, rotation, tilt etc. Buttons are provided to set values e.g. to “zero” or “mid” or “full left”.
Can switch between tracks. Settings on untouched tracks remain as is. Switching between tracks picks up values even when changed in the classical way with mouse and Multipanner plugin on a different track.
Has however some limitations, partially due to Nuendo limitations on missing access to certain parameters of the VST-Multipanner. E.g. rotation around the center of the 3D room. I do not mean rotation of e.g. a Stereo signal around its own center. This works.
Here are some screenshots.
LG, Juergi
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Can you left us the archive?
This link doesn’t work.
I know this post is 3yrs old, but do you have a current link for this product or, as I saw you mention its builder by name, any information on how to contact its maker?
The Neve G3D requires so much customization that its way overpriced by the time its able to offer what our custom hybrid console that we already have in our Dolby Atmos room offers, and Im not interested in having to pair a phone with the Dolby Atmos room’s main PC and wave the phone around, so that’s off the table.
I was considering a pair of the “planate” (or whatever the ad said) joysticks I saw another studio using, but a single device with an added knob for height like you mentioned seems like a better idea if its smaller than a pair of thr joysticks I mentioned.
Im looking to buy a physical controller for the 3D panner asap. So, if you have the information, hopefully you’re able to respond soon.
If not, maybe the information will help another studio…
… which I suppose would be a competitor. On second thought, if you don’t have the info soon; just forget about. 
LOL
jk
I know the feeling. We can’t have the WiFi enabled on the main PC tower in the Atmos room either because it doesn’t play nice with the AVoIP and console control network. It foresee it becoming an issue down the road as the industry continues to gradually abandon the admittedly smaller professional market for the massive market of clueless amateurs who pay far less for tools but eagerly buy whatever low-grade Chinese junk paid marketing-“creators” on a certain video marketing app tell them to buy. That market tends to use laptops, which are literally designed for Wi-Fi, have very few USB ports, offer less RAM, dont have slots for PCIe cards, and run on downgraded versions of the processors on their label because theyre designs to produce less heat and consume less power.
Even Steinberg now forces us to check in with them for permission to use the software we paid them thousands of dollars for, just so amateurs can save a USB port. Now that professinal-software companies force us to connect studio computers to the internet and gone is the option to keep the system secure from malware, malicious hackers, and hackers hoping to steal unreleased music, its seems like its only a matter of time before they make WiFi a requirement
I connect all my TouchOsc and midi controllers to another less important PC and run one RTPmidi session to the main DAW which receives all midi from all devices via ethernet. The phones and tablets connect to a wifi AP which can handle multiple vlan SSID.
I’ve even started using an additional Macbook office machine (for addional devices like breath controllers etc) on the office vlan to transmit midi via RTP through the local control room switch and across to the DAW vlan with no problem. UTP packets pass through vlans pretty quick and easy. They generally dont even need to go through the main router if you set up your local switch to include both vlans.
This way I dont bother the main daw with additional usb connected devices nor wifi. Just a straight ethernet connection. Sounds like your studio would have multiple PCs, just use your video slave or buss recorder to do the work.
You dont need to use different vlans like I do of course. Just use the concept of connecting your controllers to a satellite PC and a wifi AP then pipe it via ethernet/RTPmidi to the main DAW. I have measured timing and its still faster than a midi cable to a locally connected midi interface. RTP is fast.
Solid Stat Logic’s corporate overlords own Harrison, now. So, you’ll likely be able to find plenty of cheap low-grade Made in China devices with the Harrison motorized fader design soon. Likely even with SSL and/or Harrison branding on them at Vintage King Audio and Sweetwater; at which point you’ll be able to find unbranded ones made in the same Chinese factory with the same parts and lack of QC on Temu and Wish, that the factory takes off the production line before silkscreening and lists under another name for pennies on the dollar