Right. So C13 will be the last edition of Cubase to offer VST2 support…
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Okay Guys… Steinberg Is Offering a 60 Day Trial Period.
I’ll Give C-12 a Whirlwind
I love daw wars.
Just try out all the daws you can and find which has what you want and will use. If you need a fully packed daw Nuendo will be my option. Am still a studio one big time user but will admit every daw have there use cases and workflow.
Best way to pick is to look at the every daws recent/past version features then make your pick from there.
The more you get familiar to any daw the better you are getting work done.
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Thx Man…Great Options And Option
Thx For Chiming In
And its over. Studio one just added dobly atmos integration in version 6.5. Am back home.
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Yep,Out Of The Blue S1 Leap Frogs.
With That I’ll Keep My Studio One+ Sub
Very impressive update from Studio One. Looking forward to seeing what C13 offers!
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When Is C13 Release Date Coming?
Of all updates release the big one just before C13, not a coincidence.
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So What Are You Expecting From C13 Updates?
it’s because they have put effort in a much better project sharing format called Dawproject. Released yesterday. Hopefully it will get other major daws on board (right now studio one and bitwig , which worked together on development, are the only ones supporting it). It shares so much more.
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Agreed. This seems like a deliberate strategic move on the part of Presonus, and one can admire the timing. The friendly rivalry between the two developers just went to a new level. I will be watching closely when C13 is released, whenever that happens, I have no idea. But may the friendly competition continue, it benefits all of us. I was hoping for a release of C13 today, but maybe in a few weeks? I have no inside information.
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The dawproject format is a great idea. I hope Steinberg and other DAW developers join in. This is very good for the entire DAW community. We’ve all been struggling with project import/export between DAWs for decades. Clearly the dawproject format is not perfect, but it’s way better than what we have been used to in the industry already.
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SO where does everyone in this thread stand today?
@robsreport did you end up moving over and if so did you stay?
It was very very difficult to choose between S1 and Cubase coming over from Ableton earlier last year.
Initially I thought S1 blew Cubase out of the water. But after spending a good 3-4 for hours in both for the entirety of their trial periods (dedicating time to forums, tutorials, YouTube) even though there were some workflow features in S1 that are out of this world…comping, sketchpad, drag n drop and what that means for overall workflow, features like this Cubase isn’t near yet. But.
As much as I love Bitwig and was planning on using that new DAW format to compose In Bitwig and edit in S1 as my new Batman and Robin. Ultimately
Cubase sprinted ahead the deeper I got.
Fast forward 6 months & now I couldn’t dream of doing music without Cubase. If I need to spice it up for workflow I’ll work in Live12 Beta sometimes and FL if I feel like gaming lol.
But Cubase has changed my life.
Even tho C13 is unstable as hell.
Interested to hear from you S1 lovers…
*Ps any former S1 users have a spare melodyne essential license?
How does essential compare with variaudio?
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I can’t sleep so this is just a ramble.
A while back I spent some time with S1 Artist, and whilst there were things I really liked about it such as the instrument tabbed panel & step sequencer, there were also some strange choices. I forget exactly what it was right now, but working with multitimbral instruments was awful, I think it was something like muted midi tracks still send midi, or something along those lines. Cubase is good the way it works with multi-timbral plug-ins.
But, the thing that really drove me away was instruments crashing. I’m on silicon so maybe it’s related to that, but suddenly all of the GUIs would be gone & just a load of generic knobs, but the synths were actually crashed. Happened constantly. I did see there were plenty of people experiencing that with v6.
I’ve used Cubase since the early 90s on STE and have found it hard to break away, but I’ve tried many times. I’m not keen on Steinberg’s methodology, they leave bugs unfixed in favour of more features. The SX era was awful, Cubase VST was very solid & since SX it’s never been as reliable. I actually just listed SX3 on eBay in anger back in the day & got rid of it after a zillion “a serious problem has occurred.” I came back a few years later & I do think 12 is pretty solid though, so there are improvements. I only upgraded (from 10.5) to get off the elicenser but it’s definitely the nicest version so far. I just wish they would work on tightening the product and give new features a miss for a change.
I also have Bitwig and tried to go that route but it really is hard for me to use it as a Cubase replacement for a few reasons, but it’s very good & feels like modern code (which it is). The sandboxed plugins is amazing, why the entire industry hasn’t done that is beyond me.
I’m not comfortable or convinced that Cubase will withstand the steady improvements of Studio One in the coming years. They have less legacy code to deal with, a more modern codebase, and they can just copy every feature Cubase has and improve upon it.
So I keep a very close on Studio One.
I know…It’s like have I spent all this time focusing on Cubase, really studying it when I could have put up with S1 shortcomings for what could possibly be long term strides that blow it out of even contending for a top spot. I guess only time will tell. But for all it’s positives I still have to give it to Cubase for creativity and sheer depth of options
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I came from S1, after i was using cubase (from version 4).
At first, S1 seemed smoother, stabler and more innovative. But after 6 months or so, i began to experience its shortcomings.
As i see it now, Cubase is the most complete program, you can do almost everything (what traditional daws do), very cost efficient and highly customizable.
I don’t see why people are using studio one. They have so much functionality to catch up with (cubase). At the time this functionality is made - which will take at least 5/10 years from now - studio one will be legacy code and cubase will be the newer code as they have this time to do things as well.
Aside that, Yamaha has more money than Fender, so it is all a choice by their ceos.
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This is the same experience and conclusion I have come to for now.
Also. I wouldn’t have even given studio one a look if I didn’t have a myriad of instruments and effects already.
S1 really lacks in the in house Vst/Effect Department.
all i need next to Cubase is a creative tool like Bitwig.
Thats the only thing Cubase lacks for me, these easy to use modulation and sound design options.