I know Groove Agent won’t save samples when moving from one computer to another, but is there any way to find out the filenames for the samples it was using?
Yeah you open the preset and look at the pads or the sample editor window and hope you didn’t slice it up so its renamed 001, 002, 003, etc…
This is what the EXPORT function is for. I never use the ‘save’ command when I create a new kit. I export it every single time and just copy the preset from the export folder back to the presets folder where it automatically shows up as soon as GA reads it. The only time I ever use the ‘Save’ option is when I’m just tweaking a kit that already exists.
Thanks - but I don’t completely follow. I’m not using presets, I just drag samples onto the pads. Usually from the Media Bay.
Then when I open the project on a different computer all the Groove Agent pads are empty. On the pad display, there’s no indication showing what sample was there. And there’s no warning about missing samples (like in Kontakt).
Groove Agent has a “Save Kit with Samples” option. That’s how I store all my custom drum kits, in order to be able to use on other systems without my exact sample library and for backup reasons. Maybe that helps you.
If using it, don’t forget to check the little checkbox “export files” in the dialog window which is not checked by default.
Thanks, but that’s a solution to a different problem.
I’m trying to figure out if there’s any way to get the filenames of the samples that were attached to the pads on the other machine.
As said before, the ONLY way is to open Groove Agent and LOOK at the name on the pad or look at the name at the top of the sample editor and hope its not a slice named ‘001’, ‘002’, etc… .
The above ‘solution to a different problem’ would actually solve the problem entirely as you are trying to move from one computer to another and this is exactly how you avoid the issue.
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When I rename a sample and then reopen a project it opens a Groove Agent find missing samples dialogue showing the path and filename of the samples.
Doesn’t that happen on the new computer?
No, I get no error about missing samples.
As said before, the pads are empty and there are no names of samples in the sample editor.
Is there some other way to find out what was there?
That sounds like you’ve got something else going on in this case. You should get an error window, just like Halion when it cant find the samples the first time you open it. At that point you should see the filename (might have to mess with the columns in the messy window).
This is the exact same project, you’re just opening it on another computer correct? Same version of Cubase and same version of Groove Agent? Full version Groove Agent or Groove Agent SE? Can you open any of the backups/autosave versions of the project and trigger the sample search dialog?
Yes exact same project and exact same version of Cubase.
Both computers have exactly the same sample location structure as well, so the samples are located on the same drive/folder on both machines. But it is 100% repeatable: when I switch machines, the samples get lost and there is no error message. It’s almost like it determines the sample is in the right spot, so no error, but then it doesn’t load it on the other machine. The problem is I have many TB of samples and I can’t remember which sample was used in which project.
I’m certain the reference to the sample has to be stored in the project file somewhere. I just can’t figure out where.
Hence the title of the thread: any way to find out which samples were being used in Groove Agent?
Hmm that’s the tough one. Groove Agent is its own VST instrument. Is it up to Cubase or GA to reference the files? It sounds like you haven’t saved what you created as a Kit within Groove Agent, so it’s possible that moving from machine to machine throws that off. I’ve got projects where they aren’t saved as kits, and those seem to remember what was last in memory. But this is also the same machine so all my preferences/caches/etc are all still intact here.
Why not just save it as a Kit? Then if it screws up on the new machine, just reload the kit. When it cant find the samples, point it to your ‘new’ sample drive, save it again, problem solved.
Groove Agent’s got some ‘quirks’ for sure, this might just be one of them. Try posting this in the Groove Agent forum too, that way the folks that work on it might see it and chime in…