ARA 2 support delayed - UPDATE

[SteveHelstrip]

@Maincat

You think this is a problem? I live in the UK.

Need I say more?

Brilliant.

[rlared]

@Maincat

You think this is a problem? I live in the UK.

Need I say more?

ARA 2 support is delayed until a Brexit deal is reached

[BLOODMOON]

Thank you for the communication. If you improve VariAudio 3, I can wait.
VariAudio 3 is a truly well-built tool to replace Melodyne, but It has never had maintenance updates even though there are many things to fix.

VariAudio 3 Improvement Request

[fenderchris]

@rlared

@Maincat

You think this is a problem? I live in the UK.

Need I say more?

ARA 2 support is delayed until a Brexit deal is reached

Don’t hold your breath.

[rjmusic87]

Thank you for this Mattias - while ARA 2 support isn’t something for which I’m particularly desperate, I appreciate it is for a lot of people so having this style of update is really valuable.

[valsolim]

@fenderchris

@rlared

@Maincat

You think this is a problem? I live in the UK.

Need I say more?

ARA 2 support is delayed until a Brexit deal is reached

Don’t hold your breath.

I hope that Brexit will never happen since I want Dorico to stay in EU On the other hand, I’m patiently waiting for a full ARA 2 support in Cubase and Nuendo so I appreciate the announcement!

Miloslav

[ctothel]

The only thing I need is improvement of what’s already there at the moment. The basic stuff you do every day. Ara2 is great, but I love this decision, thanks Steinberg!

[ResonantMind]

@Matthias Quellmann

As many of you are eagerly waiting for ARA 2 support in Cubase, it’s time to give you a heads-up on developments. Unfortunately, we had to make the decision not to include ARA 2 in the upcoming 10.0.20 maintenance update. Although the component is already in the beta testing phase since early February, we have decided to postpone its integration to the next maintenance update, which you can expect in May, in order to extend the testing and stabilization phase.

We hope you understand this decision as it’s in your own interest to be able to work with tools that you can rely on 100%.

Many thanks,
Matthias

Thanks for informing us of what to expect. Will we see the update next week? Looking forward to this one, it would be great to get updates once a month, just one small thing a month.

Judging about information on Nuendo 10 that has been released, drag and drop into direct offline processing has been developed which I am thankful if is the case. That is something I have been asking for and hoping to see - huge workflow increase.

By the way, excuse the off topic but sort of on topic question… to use Melodyne via ARA 2 in Cubase, do I need Melodyne editor or Melodyne Studio? does anyone know?

[SF_Green]

@ResonantMind

@Matthias Quellmann

As many of you are eagerly waiting for ARA 2 support in Cubase, it’s time to give you a heads-up on developments. Unfortunately, we had to make the decision not to include ARA 2 in the upcoming 10.0.20 maintenance update. Although the component is already in the beta testing phase since early February, we have decided to postpone its integration to the next maintenance update, which you can expect in May, in order to extend the testing and stabilization phase.

We hope you understand this decision as it’s in your own interest to be able to work with tools that you can rely on 100%.

Many thanks,
Matthias

Thanks for informing us of what to expect. Will we see the update next week? Looking forward to this one, it would be great to get updates once a month, just one small thing a month.

Judging about information on Nuendo 10 that has been released, drag and drop into direct offline processing has been developed which I am thankful if is the case. That is something I have been asking for and hoping to see - huge workflow increase.

By the way, excuse the off topic but sort of on topic question… to use Melodyne via ARA 2 in Cubase, do I need Melodyne editor or Melodyne Studio? does anyone know?

Both versions worked in Sonar’s ARA implementation. Since ARA’s a standard, I would think that Cubase would be the same.

[ResonantMind]

@Matthias Quellmann

As many of you are eagerly waiting for ARA 2 support in Cubase, it’s time to give you a heads-up on developments. Unfortunately, we had to make the decision not to include ARA 2 in the upcoming 10.0.20 maintenance update. Although the component is already in the beta testing phase since early February, we have decided to postpone its integration to the next maintenance update, which you can expect in May, in order to extend the testing and stabilization phase.

We hope you understand this decision as it’s in your own interest to be able to work with tools that you can rely on 100%.

Many thanks,
Matthias

Matthias, this actually a pretty interesting pilot experiment of community interaction regarding future updates. ie, let us know what you are working on, what is currently being worked on to get fixed or added, and when we can expect it… and it’s okay if you have to delay. People don’t mind a delay if they know they are being heard. Would love to see an update itinerary of future updates that are being worked on, soon to be worked on, etc and estimated target dates… and it’s OKAY if you have to delay for reason of stability. Some people will always whine of coarse.

@SF_Green

Both versions worked in Sonar’s ARA implementation. Since ARA’s a standard, I would think that Cubase would be the same.

Thanks

[babaorum]

Does it mean that this is the end of Variaudio announced ?

[ResonantMind]

@babaorum

Does it mean that this is the end of Variaudio announced ?

Not likely, Melodyne is still a separate product that needs to be paid for.

VariAudio is included and buying Cubase is as far as many people will invest into audio/music.

[Starsprinkler]

@ResonantMind

to use Melodyne via ARA 2 in Cubase, do I need Melodyne editor or Melodyne Studio? does anyone know?

All Melodyne editions support ARA (even the Essential edition).

Editions compared:

Editions and technical matters

[MrSoundman]

@babaorum

Does it mean that this is the end of Variaudio announced ?

Absolutely not! There’s a long and informative thread discussing the pros and cons of both, dating back to 2016 (and in the Cubase 8 section):
Variaudio vs Melodyne 4
(while reading that thread, check the dates as it was started almost three years ago, and Variaudio has improved greatly since then).

[Kip]

Not interested in ARA anyways. I’d prefer Steinberg to focus on fixes not new but redundant features.

[planarchist]

@rlared

@Maincat

You think this is a problem? I live in the UK.

Need I say more?

ARA 2 support is delayed until a Brexit deal is reached

Indeed, that really would be a worrying announcement.

[Area52]

As a long time Melodyne Studio user I’ve been waiting for years for ARA support to arrive in Cubase.
I really hope they get it right the first time, without opening a can of worms!
In the meantime Vari Audio 3 seems to work quite well for vocal editing, and I’m actually quite impressed by how fast and easy it is to use.

[greggybud]

@jimknopf

This direct way of customer communication is welcome. In case of delays, that’s much better for planning, than having unclear waiting times.

A company with straight communication will always get more patience from me than a silent one.

More patience from me too. I’m happy for relatively improved communication.

[SteelyDani]

November, 13: Cubase 10 available. New features: Forthcoming support for extended communications between ARA plug-ins and Cubase.

March, 20: ARA 2 support delayed.

Everybody seems to be very happy because four months later Steinberg has been so kind as to communicate the delay to his clients. Nobody complains about the delay.

With all due respect, I consider this a perfect example of the Stockholm syndrome.

[guybuss]

SteelyDani that description is slightly over the top no?

Nobody said they were ‘happy’ about the delay.

Everyone here knows Steinberg are particularly useless at communicating with it’s user base, the fact they have communicated the delay is surprising, it’s not normal for them to do so. At least those looking forward to ARA implementation can now forget about it until it’s ready.

The delay sucks, but complaining about the delay won’t speed it up. Like almost all software companies (and companies in general for that matter), they say one thing and do another. I have zero expectations from them in terms of delivering what was promised, or it being on time. They should just adopt ID Softwares mantra ‘Done when it’s done’.