Audio-Dropouts on Rendering

Hello,

since some years i have problems with audio dropouts on rendering, even though i have a very powerful system. when using realtime-export, i have at least an indicator something went wrong, and the rendering aborts. i can than try again, change something in my project, until i can export without this (hard-disc or cpu) problem.

i am using audio-parts very much, to keep all takes from recording vocals or guitars, etc. - so i can - whenever i want - use partially another take if needed. but this leads very very often to the described problems on rendering. also when i use vari audio and have lots of cuts on some audio-tracks it will probably cause dropouts if i have to many plugins used on this track. the solution is to use “render in place”, but there are two problems:

first: i am loosing access to my other takes, which can be very problematical.
second: much worse: if i use render in place, it also happens, that audio-dropouts occur sometimes, but without any warning (same as project-export without realtime checked!)! the result is an broken audio-file with one or multiple drop-outs.

at the moment, i have no other solution as using render in place, and after each time scroll the track zoomed in from the beginning to the end, and comparing visually the original part and the new generated render, to see if there is any drop-out. if i miss someting, and i save the project, after i removed the original part from the project, i am fucked and need to sing again, or play again or copy&paste from somewhere if possible. its really pain in the ass!

Steinberg, i am using Cubase since 25 years, and this problem hit me first maybe with version 12, i am not sure, and i dont know what you changed (alot obviously), but PLEASE! do something! this is a desaster! it cost me so many hours to fix broken projects now…. i cant deal with this anymore.

oh, and by the way, just a side-information - i am an it-professional, and also a programmer, and i did EVERYTHING to optimize my system, starting form update my bios, change the nvidia driver, customizing the nvidia driver, use latency mon, to track down the problem, change energy-saving settings, change display settings, removing software, etc. etc. - i had this problem with multiple different audio interfaces, with different computer hardware, with windows 10, with windows 11, so its not related to my system.

generating a broken audio-file without any warning is nothing an expensive professional audio-recording-software should EVER do!

i hope this bits of a message finds someone from the steinberg support/development-team well!

by the way - i always thought you guys are from US,
Schöne Grüße aus meinem “HomeOffice” aus Griechenland! :wink:

Steinberg, this drives me insane! I need to switch to another DAW in the future if you dont fix this, it’s inacceptable!

please do something!

Hi,
I have never had any such problems like the ones you describe. And if this was a regular thing the forum would be flooded with complaints since this is not acceptable behaviour.
No matter if you are an IT specialist or not - I assume it must have something to do with your system and/or workflow.
If I were you I’d start a new topic and add as much info as possible including screenshots of VariAudio adjustements and an audio file (any test sample will do). This way, chances are much higher to get to the bottom of the problem and get it fixed.

BTW: Home office in Greece - not too bad :wink:

Reco29, i am not the only one!

for my “feature-request” (a warning when using render in place and dropout happens!) there is no need to provide any information to steinberg. they should add an option to use “realtime” when using “render in place” - and than show a warning if a dropout happened - in the export with realtime they can discover drop outs, they should make this available for render in place too! than, at least, i will see a warning if a problem occured and dont discover next day, that i was deleting original audio-files that got replaced with new render-in-place ones with ugly dropouts.

Which different hardware you used? - During Playback also Dropouts? - Because my Windows7-System with I7-2700k 16GB RAM Intel Mainboard RME Raydat Audiocard is very stable. (Of cause it depends on the Plugins.) My Windows10-System with I9-9900K 32GB RAM with Asus Mainboard and a Maya44-PCIe-Audio card with Dropouts during Playback) - After replacing the Maya44 by RME Raydat I only had sometimes Dropouts - Cubase 10.5 on both Systems. - Some Mixing-engineers on Youtube used Cubase 13 and upgraded from I9-9900k to an Intel I7-14th Generation CPU, but finally changed to Mac because of Dropouts. Within the next weeks I´ll check an extra Windows 11 Intel I7-10700K-32GB-System with RME Raydat for running with Cubase 10.5 or 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 for stable running hopefully without Dropouts. - Before I thought to change to an AMD- 7950x - 64GB-RAM-System - But now to expensive because of RAM-prices…

i am using a AMD Ryzen 5900X with 64GB RAM on Windows 11 Pro, but if i remember correct. this problem happened also with other hardware and Windows 10. Also, the system usage is very low at the export. i have highperformance-ssd’s that are bored at an export, but anyways it comes to a dropout. cubase could load EVERYTHING into RAM and dont write something to disk, until its processed if the SSD-Performance is somehow the problem.

i also tried my old RME Fireface instead of the Scarlett 2i2, buffer set to 2048…still the realtime export is just not working. its insane.

this problem bothers me so much since so long and i investigated so much time, that i even after over 25 years using this software see myself forced to switch to another DAW. and Steinberg is just doing nothing, right? …

this bullsh… drives me so insane!

i had a simple project and because i couldnt get rid of export problems in realtime i used render in place again to “simplify” the wave-files for cubase. and OF COURSE there was a dropout in the result which i didnt see…but i used it for my video export for which i waited over an hour, to realize than: there is a drop out in the audio in my guitar-track! F… MY LIFE!
Steinberg, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FIX THIS!!! i dont have any other solution than using render in place, and there is NO CHANCE to see if something is going wrong - i need to check every WAVE-FORM with my eyes to see if there was a drop out - it costs A LOT OF TIME!

i am going to kill myself. this is SO frustrating. cant say it often enough.