Can someone explain why Cubase stopped making backup projects when I am working?
Aren’t the settings correct, what else needs to be done?
I started working sometime before 16:00. At 16:13 I did a full reset of the mixer and saved my project. then I continued working on the same project until 16:55, obviously without saving and Cubase crashed when loading a plugin.
poff, all work gone and no backup in the folder.
aren’t these settings supposed to make backup projects every 6 minutes with these settings? what am I missing? I see several folder have the same problem.
Windows user with everything latest greatest versions.
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I bought a multi-button mouse for the sole purpose of assigning ctrl+S to one of the extra buttons. I save every minute, sometimes more often. Another button has alt+ctrl+s assigned to it. I use that one every 20 minutes or so.
I don’t trust any software (or hardware) to work.
Hi James, then you have a lot of BAK files.?
Can you check in your folder?
now i looked here, and see this.
I save while i am working.
But not every minute.
Is looked and saw that yesterday more then 20 BAK files where made while i was working with Cubase.
yeah I got that too, and a button for snap on/off but sometimes you think of other things and when there should at least have been only 6 minutes lost… its annoying either way
I would assume it will cycle the 20 files? so I could go back quite far back in a project, with a little uncertainty on the exact moment of backup.
I don’t know, Cubase has been acting strange lately. “Many” crashes randomly, at least I could always go get a backup project and there wasn’t too big of a gap from the crash.
no I haven’t changed any preferences in Cubase, I have available space on my drives.
It is very strange indeed with this auto back up, here i set it on 20, but when i look in the folder i see much more BAK files then 20 for 1 cpr file.
So, i do not trust that for the full 100% like we can see now.
Usualy in other programs, their was always 1 last autosave file made only for when a system crashed or exit by a taskmanager.
In other programs i used, when a program was crashing, like i used movavi for video editing for a while, that some times the program crashed, but always ask by the next start if i want to reload the last file i was working on while the program crashed.
So i think Glenn, that you found a bug.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi Glenn,
About the crashes here:
I start with cubase 13 in Windows 11 on february 29 this year.
It is working stable here, but, on an exit HALion Sonic crashed so now and then, but then the save mode start, as you have seen i think, and i can work but that crash came when i was working for a view ours whit only HALion Sonic tracks, after i did many things with the plug in files VST, that crash was a crash in a VSTSOUND file, so that was here not fatal, but still a crash, like you wrote that your system crashed when loading a plugin.
Now i hope that Steinberg can do something with the DUMP FILES.
Did you send your dumpfiles of the crash to?
I send them a dump file of the crash and then i go on.
Good luck, without crashes…
It is 20 backup files per project.
If you save the project under a new name (as “Save new Version” will do) you will have another possible 20 .bak files.
Indeed Johnnie, so that works, and if i listen 5 minutes without change, then autosave do not save automatic in that periode.
“Figure out why” things like this, must not cost to much time.
But, good to know, i manualy save my file while working after a did a range of things, mostly at the 3 or 4 minutes.
Because like Glenn wrote, losing data from an our work, that is a bad day, ia that crash.
So the fun we have when making music, it is very advanced, but fun.
Thanks for your time.
Don’t fully understand this post but…
I suspect there is some kind of “changes” flag, set to true or false, such that if auto-save is set for 5 minutes, and there are no changes, the flag is false, there’s no need to backup. When there’s a change, the flag is set to true, when the save timer triggers, the save is executed, the flag set back to false. Etc.
Otherwise, if you’re just looping your track, listening, for say, an hour, all your backups will end up the same.
Now I’m not sure I understand this post…
Auto-backup is only done when Cubase is neither playing back nor recording.
I have a hard time imagining that you never once pressed the Stop button between 16:13 and 16:55, but maybe you didn’t?
Before i fully understand my own posts, that can be an isue to
It was more that i try to describe how i saw in other programs, where an auto save file never was multiple.
So, i do not understand some things, why we can make multiple auto saves.
Because, in that principal need that auto back-up, the last version, at a moment that:
The system crash
Or if you just click on do not save when you exit your file.
In this case a crash occurs.
Usualy, i hope that i never need this auto back-up, because that part is for repare.
We can try out some things like:
What happends if you do not save 5 minutes and work on a project, you do not save your file by exit, and i had a vew weaks ago a message:
Maby related to this, that their was found a newer version of the project, and Cubase asked if i want to open the newer version of the project and/or save that at that moment.
Maby at that moment, Cubase use this BAK files as newer version.
So, maby we can figure out why we can make multiple back- up files, to restore …
Indeed it is better to manage the save, but when a crash occurs, then you can have this issue.
In another program, this AUTO SAVE FILE system worked totaly different.
Because in my video editor, by every change i make, this single autofile is another new save, and i can not use this autofile myself, this autofile get loaded only after a crash, sometimes my video editor get slow after many editing, and sometimes it hangs…
Then i exit the program in a taskmanager, and then this autofile file is the exact copy from the situation before the program crashed.
So, that leaves only for me the question, like you can read in my other post, why this is multiple.
But maby Steinberg have a reason that i had not discovered yet…
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and when there should at least have been only 6 minutes lost… its annoying either way