HI
i am new to nuendo12 and work in audio post for TV mainly… I have been working in Soundscape since 1995. I come from tape and film days so I use a controller with automation. In Soundscape If I need to change a parameter, eq/pan/send etc on any selected channels, I go out of read/write, set up what I need and go back to the point that the change/s are needed, engage read/write and push a snapshot button and those settings are saved at that point on those automation channels - without affecting the previous settings.
How do I do this on Nuendo?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Rob
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It sounds like preview automation is probably what you are looking for.
Agree.
You can read about the automation panel in the manual here:
Operations Tab (steinberg.help)
Open it, select the range you want to work on, engage “Preview” and then tweak until you find the settings you like. When you “Punch” (‘write’) what is in the Preview buffer it will punch according to the “Fill” settings to the left. So you set that to “Loop” for example and the settings in the buffer will write to the range you set (“loop”).
Thanks for the quick response, gents.
Wow that is seriously convoluted way of working!
I’m finding Nuendo way over complicates things and the manual is not very helpful either.
Thankfully there are helpful people on the forum and Youtube.
I don’t think it is. It’s pretty logical. I think from the perspective of someone who never worked the way you did what you described seems just as convoluted, or worse (I’m PT / Nuendo only).
What you should remember though is that you can get quite far by using Macros. So in my case for example I have created a macro that (1) sets loop to selection (which could be event(s)), (2) engages loop in transport, (3) engages “Preview”, (4) sets “Fill” to “Loop”, and finally (5) starts playback. So with only one key press all of that is taken care of. Once I have what I need I just need to punch with another key press. So the way I work I only need to press two keys.
Btw; in terms of the amount of steps…
1 - “go out of read/write” = engage “Preview”
2 - “go back to the point that the change/s are needed” = select range
3 - "engage read/write " = set “Fill” to “Loop”
4 - “push a snapshot button” = press “Punch”
It’s about equally cumbersome it seems. Also, for above I’d say that the benefit of “Preview” is that read remains enabled for any parameter you have not touched. So you can hear playback of automated parameters. I would imagine that if you disabled “read/write” in that other DAW it would no longer read. In addition to that the “Suspend” option below “Preview” will allow you to suspend the preview state and return to reading the written automation of the parameters you touched without deleting them from the preview buffer. So you can easily toggle your old settings and the ones in the “Preview” buffer by toggling “Suspend”, which is pretty handy if you want to quickly do a before/after comparison.
For the most part the Nuendo automation system is pretty logical and versatile I think. It’s just a bit different.
Thanks for the detailed work flow Mattias.
I have been trying it out and as you say there are a lot of advantages working this way to copying the setting across to other places needing the same setting.
So when sorting tracks from the OMF/AAF if in preview you can store those changes and use as needed.
I’m and old dog who has to learn some new tricks. I’m getting there though.
Thanks again and have a great weekend.
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You all know you can draw the changes onto the automation lanes? Instead of whatever y’all suggest?
Yes, you take it out of write automation, and set the new parameters. Then just click the new parameters onto the automation line. With a small ramp if need be, to eliminate any “zip” sounds the plugin might cause. Then put it back to read / write or whatever you want.
Hi Nicholas
Can you describe in more detail how you click to save the parameters onto the automation track. What tool/command is used to do this?
The link only shows how to adjust parameters.
thanks
I use the pencil tool. to click a new point in the automation line. Very much the same as in PT or Logic.
Fiddle around with a test session, friend. Learn some of these really great tools.
Open an automation track, and mess with it.
It’s worth playing around with the automation panel.
The preview punch workflow @MattiasNYC described is a central point, but does require a few steps. The macros are a big time saver.
On shorter quicker changes, I forgo this whole preview thing. I set the automation panel ‘ToPunch’, enable pre-roll and position the locator at the beginning of the section. Then you can dial in the desired pan/send level while playing. Once I find the right spot, let it continue in auto-latch. Once you stop playback or punch out, it writes that value you settled on back to the punch-in point, which is where you started playback. You can double click on ‘ToPunch’ so that remains engaged, and you don’t have to re-do it. So you can very quickly move to find the right values in shorter events without ever having to hit any other button.
A variation of that is if you use ‘Loop’, locked with double click, and just make sure to set your locators with selecting events, and ‘p’ to set locators to selection. If I read your post right, this may actually be close to what you’re used to.
Somewhat related for re-setting automation for an entire track is you use the ‘To Start’ and ‘To End’ and just write a short section finding your value and punch out.
There are more nuanced features like the cross-over automation mode, and the punch log which allows you to copy previous settings. Worth watching a tutorial or reading the manual on those.
If I have to copy plugin automation from another section, I put the track into preview, go to the source event, plugin window, copy the plugin parameters, go to the destination event, paste plugin parameters, and then punch out of preview.
Lastly worth getting to know trim if you haven’t used it before. I prefer trim with manual commit (after leaving trim mode) which can be changed in the settings box.
Thank you that is very helpful info.
I have buttons on my Behringer Xtouch controller assigned to Preview, Punch and Load which helps speed up the process as well.
I’m naming the punches so for the next bit of the same settings needed, it is really easy to load and punch again. The nice thing is that you can write to as many tracks as you need, which is great for the final mix starting point.
I’m beginning to understand Nuendo more and also starting to enjoy it.
Thanks for the tips!
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