The instruction, to use or not has been given previously.
I know what Autoscroll is, and I know what it does. I also know what can be achieved using the suspend function of Autoscroll but to re-iterate (again):
I don’t want Autoscroll to switch back on, just because I have decided to start the sequencer from a different point in the project, while it is running
I also don’t want Autoscroll to switch back on, simply becasue I have stopped and restarted the sequencer
It seems, these two concepts are rather too difficult to understand, even for non-developers, or are being ignored, hence my questioning the professionalism of both end-users and the application itself.
Yes indeed emotive, i think you put it in the good order in what you experience is, and i think that is important, because you are looking for a solution at differend places, and you are telling us about it to.
That autoscroll on suspend switch on at moments that you do not want you screen moving, if you look at the same function in the upper area where the events are, when a select an event with suspend on, then it stop at the same way as in the editor.
When this scrolling start at moments you do not want to scroll is indeed annoying. so then i schould disable that suspend function till an update if it can be changed.
How developers make that choise, have to do with the developing it self.
It is wrong to suggest simply disabling the function is somehow a solution.
When Autoscroll is suspended, pressing “F” simply re-starts Autoscrolling behaviour, which is not what I want or I would have not used it to begin with. It does not disable the Autoscroll feature, from when autoscroll is suspended.
Yes, it seams that the F key is for disable and enable that button.
I think this is happening:
This F key just push the autoscroll button instead of your mouse pointer.
If you are not using the suspend mode, then it works to disable autoscroll and enable it, but not when it is suspend.
Because this F key does the same, it just push that button, but then, in suspend mode that move of pussing the button is disable the suspend mode, so then the screen moves again, and the fish are swimming again…
It restarts Autoscroll, thus moving the visible area of the project. Pressing “F” again, disables Autoscroll but it is too late by then, fish have swum.
That’s why in the other thread, I asked for a modifier, since if Autoscroll is suspended, pressing “F” or the Autoscroll button; doing that simply enables or re-enables the Autoscroll function and starts or re-starts automatic page scrolling, which is counter to what I am after, that is for there to be no change to what is currently visible in the project page, or Key Editor.
Yes, and that is indeed very annoying.
So then the developers should have an extra button to disable autoscroll with another button while suspend mode is on, to avoid a start before you can stop autoscroll.
The F is just a key command.
You can not disable autoscroll in suspend mode, you push the space bar.
Then you push the F twice and push the spacebar again.
That sounds like what I am after however in the first instance, one can only question why Autoscroll needs to turn back on automatically after a sequencer event, such as Stop/Play or else change of current location by clicking on the timeline.
You have made a good suggestion but again, why would I need an extra button or even a Modifer, when all I am asking is for something not to happen.
Well, if you do not want that to happend, disable the suspend function and then it never happends, but that sounds weird…
Because it is an extra function to capture a note while scrolling.
But you can push the STOP button to stop the screen moving, and then push the F twice.
Because while playing autoscroll moves the screen, not while you STOPPED the music in the transporter.
Just the way you can avoid this problem by this extra click on the STOP button.
So this suggestion:
disable suspend in autoscroll
Use the spacebar instead to stop playing, push f to disable autoscroll and push play (spacebar)
That works better for you.
Because then the screen is not going to move at a moment that you do not want the screen to move.
Usely when you stop playing the scroll stop anyway.
I’ll understand that you want to do this while the music just play along, but then you bump into this issue.
@emotive,
I tried my best to explain this in your previous thread, but instead you went into insult mode, questioning the professionalism of this entire community. Not exactly how I would ask for help, but that’s your choice. Let me try this again, one more time:
Correct, but it’s even simpler than that, because you don’t even have to press Space to start and stop playback. Just press that F key while playing, and Autoscroll will turn off. You can continue editing every note you want, stop and start playback again and again, autoscroll will NOT turn on again, until you press F again.
By insisting on using Suspend autoscroll, you yourself are creating the problem.
Because, Suspend means to turn autoscroll off temporarily, until the next course of action. That’s the whole point. That’s why these are two different features.
You’ve made it very clear that you don’t want this – instead you want Suspend to act more like Autoscroll on/off.
Well then, just use Autoscroll on/off instead. That way, you control when the screen should scroll and when it should not scroll. It will never switch on or off unless you explicitly tell it to.
Someone please correct me if I’m completely off the rails here. If I am, then I am sorry. I’m sincerely trying to help.
Yes, correct eirik_myhr, it is much simpler to use at this way.
This suspend feature you can use, but you can disable that suspend and just use the F key.
But, then emotive ask himself why it works better without suspend, but it can be usefull sometimes, but this issue is not an issue if you use F while autoscroll is on without the suspend.
So the solution sounds weird for emotive because that sounds as if that suspend mode has no good at all, but that is not true.
This suspend mode is usefull if you want to catch a note while autoscroll is on, because without suspend the screen does not stop when you select a note.
Pushing the F key without suspend is the way to do that without the annoying that emotive gets when the screen moves again.
Just like you wrote, it is temporary and the suspend does not stop the locator, because autoscroll just follow the locator.
Thanks for your reply.
So in this issue you want to ask the developers to change the way autoscroll and suspend works in Cubase.
Maby you can ask them if it is possible to create it with the option to stop autoscrolling when the screen is in suspend mode.
But, if developers think just like others, then they can just say the same as what you read here.
So then a developer is going to ask himself why this feature has to change the way how to disable autoscroll while it is in suspend mode.
So developers that wrote this part, use users information if it sounds logical, else they are not gonna change something via ICT.
If 20000 users have the same problem, then you have more change that your wish comes out one day maby.
But, usely if we can help here to tell you how you can do it at this moment, is more important, so you can make your points here, but then the users that are using this just like you can tell you how that works.
Users can not change the features in a computer program, but developers need user information to improve their products.
I hope you can accept this for now.
If you have more issues, just write it down. eirik_myhr did explain it very good. Good luck.
If I am insulting, then Erik (same person) are trolling, as far as I am concerned, which is fine, more views = more focus on the subject.
I don’t want to get into a quotation war, but you have said previously (same person), that I am creating the problem myself and that I should refrain from using the feature…
…short of asking everyone to stop posting, I think we might find a Fanboy in our midst, which again is fine; I have been labelled as such in the past so that is one thing the 3 of us (lol) have in common.
Anyway, as I said previously, it was ME, who asked for this feature many moons ago, and now I am asking for a change in how it works so my rhetoric about being professional still stands because a person can only say something, or the same thing so many times and if we are true professionals, then we likely would not post so often!
You want to be able to have “suspend” ON, and while you are playing back the timeline you click on an event and playback stops and you want to leave it NOT scrolling until you turn it back on again - AND - you do NOT want to use a key command before you select the event, is that correct?