Bars & Beats timeline

So after years of it being completely broken I noticed today IC has had an update and I have it working. Yet the arrange display STILL shows seconds instead of bars & beats. Who are these imaginary users that prefer seconds displayed instead of bars & beats when that’s what the actual timeline shows?

the craziest thing is that it actually locks to the bars & beats for LR markers (which I’m pretty sure it didn’t years ago when the app actually still worked) but why on can’t we just have Bars & Beats? I just don’t get it…

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Tap the seconds display and it will turn to Bars and Beats.

Thanks for the suggestion but I’m not talking about that, I’m talking about the timeline which as you can see here, even when bars+beats is selected it’s still in seconds whilst in Cubase itself I have it set to bars + beats. It’s like nobody from Steinberg actually makes music or uses their software. The most ridiculous aspect it that the left right locators snap to bars & beats, it was like this years ago before it stopped working at all & was abandoned for 2-3 years.

At least it does actually load now & seems to work though. I’m surprised nobody else is annoyed by this, maybe nobody uses it.

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Hi there,
Bringing this up again. I bought IC Pro a couple of weeks ago and finally had some time playing with it today.
And indeed, the first thing that sprung to my eyes was the showing “time” instead of bars/beats.
There was an update today, but that didn’t change.
Is there a hidden setting somewhere? Or is it meant to stay like this?
Just wondering …

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Unfortunately they spend time on bells & whistles rather than useful features, it’s bizarre. They’ll do another overhaul/update of this in a few years, and then it’s Russian roulette as to whether they’ll fix it. They’re such a frustrating company, it just feels like they don’t care about their customers at all, just grabbing the money. This app wouldn’t even load for YEARS on my iPad Pro.

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Given that this is a paid app, this limitation is frankly disrespectful and offensive.

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Please read here:

Thanks,
Lars

Sorry, but that just shows you’re not prepared to spend resources to solve the "technical limitations.” It should clearly be stated that this essential feature doesn’t work on the app page. I think it’s shocking you charge for it tbh.

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“Technical limitations” is corporate speak for “I don’t care about you”.

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Yep, they treat us as fools. It’s always been the downside of Steinberg, I’ve used their software since the early 90s, but this century it’s a serious effort to actually like their practices. Wavelab is an exception, I have lots of respect for its developer and the way he interacts with customers. Dismissive/insulting posts like the one above make we want to have nothing to with them ever again. It’s just arrogant.

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Hi @starpower, Hi @jd9

Thanks for your comment.

Please feel free to browse the history of my responses in this and the Cubasis forum, which is done next to my main job at Steinberg.

Not happy to read such comments to be honest.

Best,
Lars

I don’t know who deserves our grief but someone does, I am happy to say that you are personally a gem and my criticism is addressed to the person where the buck stops.
“Technical limitations” remains bs.

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Well you chose to be dismissive of our concerns. It’s not personal against you, but the fact remains that this attitude of Steinberg is insulting. It’s obvious that accountants likely decide how time will be spent on development. Once it has used its allotted dev budget, it will not be finished even though the money is taken. My primary anger comes from the YEARS that it wouldn’t even load on either of my iPads. Steinberg charge money for it. I’m a software developer myself so gaslighting does not work on me afraid.

The fact that this feature is missing is simply ridiculous for such an app, I mean really really ridiculous.

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There is a surprising overlap (go figure) between software engineers and amateur or semi-pro music creators, so “technical reasons” is unlikely to fly. Just say you don’t care enough. This is our job too, we know all the bullshit inside and out.