Bars with same "amount of space" on the page regardless of content

I would like to not only keep a fixed number of bars on the page but also take them up the same amount of space—regardless of whether I input music or not. As in a blank sheet with only rests:

And unlike this:

I thought that by meddling with the default spacing between notes, and a custom ratio I’d be able to do that, but it doesn’t seem to have any effect.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

A custom spacing ratio of 2 is closer, I think.

Jesper

Another option is to have all bars filled with 16-notes in another voice with hidden noteheads and stems.

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Thanks, Jesper.

Unfortunately, I can’t spare any voices to hide notes in, so that won’t work. And as of now, the ratio doesn’t seem to have any effect at all.

Here’s what I want to achieve eventually. I have a sequence of notes without barlines which make up one system on the page:

They are demisemiquavers (in a grid of demisemiquavers) with altered noteheads, and I would like them to show in this rather random manner. For orientation’s sake, I was thinking of adding barlines, though. The bars would have to contain not only the same amount of music defined by a given time signature but should divide the page evenly. Since there are many empty bars which contain only rests, the barlines would show one after the other immediately which defeats the purpose.

Am I making myself clear?

Maybe it’s not doable, and it’s certainly not overly important, but I was wondering today whether I can set not only the number of bars in a system but also specify their width in some way.

There is no (practical) limit to the number of different voices you can have on a stave.

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:slight_smile: @janus was quicker

I think I don’t understand this.

AFAIK, there’s no limit to the number of voices you can use in Dorico Pro

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You’re right, I could of course add more voices. But they would have no other purpose than this barline business because I wouldn’t need them otherwise.

If they accomplish what you want, isn’t that enough?

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I think you need to accept that you are trying to achieve something very unusual and that will require unusual solutions.

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Fair enough, I was just wondering whether I could easily preset the bar width in settings. I can live with the fact that it (apparently) can’t.

It just occurred to me that I may have misunderstood altogether what you suggested, Jesper. I thought by “another voice” you mean another system added (which would be rather inconvenient) but I think what you meant was a second voice within the same system, right? Well, that, of course, makes sense and is, in fact, very elegant!

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Yes, indeed.

Jesper

I would not say that a whole page with fixed-width measures is anything unusual. In fact, for an educational document is something absolutely normal (for example, to write examples or exercises).

Surely it is not important for most composers, but for teaching it would be much useful to stablish a fixed width for all measures in a page.