I need to have a beamed passage with tremolos. When I select and beam together the tremolos are removed.
Since individual notes of a grouping can be ātremoloādā or two notes can be joined in a tremolo, it would be helpful to have an image of what you are trying to achieve.
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I donāt think itās possible (yet) to join different pairs of multinote tremolos in Dorico ā not sure I ever saw this before eitherā¦
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I can reproduce the OPās situation. I agree, Marc, that Dorico does not appear designed to do what @derekjohnsoncomposer is after.
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I donāt see any mention of this formatting in Gould p. 225 passim. I think itās safe to say itās not standard.
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Mighty not be standard but itās way easier to read!
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Itās a matter of being consistent in showing the beat. I understand why it doesnāt work in Dorico - but it certainly would be nice if it did.
Hi there
I donāt think this is a good idea. The meaning of a beam on a tremolando is different from the meaning of a normal beam, and I donāt think itās helpful to join the two meanings together.
If these were the only two options, I would prefer to dispense with the āruleā that beams show the beat, instead of dispensing with the āruleā that tremolandos have an isolated beam.
But there are other notation options, which have arisen because the normal one is not suitable for complex rhythmic situations. It would be better to use one of the two options in this picture. The top is perhaps more widely accepted than the bottom, which is taken from a Jonathan Harvey score I engraved a few years back:
In both cases, the number of stems is correct for the rhythm, and so joining beams is fine.
In this particular case, Iād opt for the trill version, as itās cleaner, and better with the ties. Iāve included the other one for the sake of completeness more than anything else.
Hope thatās useful
Jeremy
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When I suggested on OPās Facebook post that he bring the issue here, I suppose I couldāve been clearer that I meant as a feature request. Whether or not there are cleaner or clearer ways to notate this, it certainly is something a composer could reasonably ask for, and I canāt think of any particular reason why it should be disallowed. I would also like to be able to accomplish this notation, should the need ever arise.
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Sending an update. Getting to know this wonderful program better I was able to accomplish my task.
Thanks for the input. Name that tuneā¦
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Wow! Have you used different voices (on same voice column index) to accomplish those ābeamed togetherā multinote tremolos?
I ended up using hidden tuplets (2:1 - then colored them white/opaque) and then used text for the tremolo symbol. I lose playback, but maybe there is a way to fix that in Play?
I didnāt think of using multiple voices. Iāll have to give that a try.
If you select the tuplet number and set the properties like this, the tuplet will be actually hidden instead of transparentāslightly more robust when printing/exporting.
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Wonderful! Many thanks to @hrnbouma! I was wishing for a āhiddenā property for that, and you found it. Thanks! 
@MarcLarcher The different voice on the same voice column index worked! Thanks for the tip. A little labor intensive - and, Iām not super happy about the flat tremolo shape, or the weird positioning of the additive dots. But, it does playback correctly.
