Beaming 16th notes in 5/4

Dorico
#1

Is it possible to automatically group 16th notes to groups of four in 5/4 time signature?

I’ve inputted the time signature as [3+2]/4, which is correct for the longer durations:

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But I would like to group 16th notes automatically like this:

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I think I tried everything in the notation options, but am I missing something?

I can input the time signature as [1+1+1+1+1]/4, but that is not how I would like to have it for the longer notes:

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Finally, I can get almost the result I want with aggregate time signature, but I’m not sure if that is really the best way to notate it. The tempo of this piece is very slow (q= ca. 54), so perhaps it makes sense?

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Any help or comments are appreciated!

Irregular Meter: split at beat subdivisions
#2

No, this is how 5/4 behaves at present. You’d need to adjust the first bar, then set the 1+1+… for the second, and hide that.

#3

May also help in some measures to set customized time signatures (ALT+ENTER the time signature) for a given staff (and measures) and then hiding it.

#4

A standard way to treat 5/4 is to beam it as if its a measure of 3/4 followed by a measure of 2/4 (or with the order switched, i.e., 2/4 plus 3/4), but without the dashed line mid-bar. I would like for Dorico to have an option to beam hybrid metres as such.
Dorico’s automatic beaming work great nearly all the time in 4/4, but breaks down considerably in hybrid metres.

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#5

Why don’t you use [3+2]/4 in the meter popover if that’s what you need? Or [2+3]/4? You can alt-click those as you need them, and let Dorico do the job…
[Edit] Sorry, I just saw your first post…
This is why I would love the ability to “lock to a rhythmic pattern” as was suggested earlier in another thread. It would improve the granularity.

#6

Thank you for the responses! I’ll stick to the aggregate time signature for now and come back to it when the piece is finished. It’s almost 10 minutes of mostly 5/4 bars, so I need to find a consistent solution. I’d like to notate the aggregate time signature as (3+2)/4, but so far I managed only to do 3/4+2/4, which doesn’t look as nice.