Beaming in 3/4?

Hello all,

I am reading in the version history for v.5 that we now can apply note grouping rules for cut time in common meter. What about 3/4? Can we now automatically have
instead of


Or is there maybe some other way than manually beaming that I just don’t think of?


There isn’t an automatic way to beam like that in 3/4 – because it looks like 6/8.

I know you’ll find it in old engravings, but it’s usually considered less helpful.

I presume that setting the time sig to [1.5 + 1.5] or hiding 6/8 isn’t what you want for other groupings, either; so if you want it like that, you’ll have to join the beams manually.


Thanks for confirming, manual it is.
I don’t get [1.5+1.5]/4 to work though, is that what you meant?

I don’t think you can have fractions/decimals in the time signatures popover, it’s integers only.

It was a hunch - unsurprising that it doesn’t work, now I think about it. You could try a hidden 6/8, but as said, that’s likely to cause other groupings to look … well, like 6/8. :laughing:

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(Quoting Ben but more addressing the team:)

True for 3/4 in 3, but if you’re in 1, it both makes sense and is quite readable to beam any eighths together. Note that Dorico already beams 4 or 5 eighths together in 3/4, even if it’s 4 starting on the 2nd eighth. I would welcome such a setting.

The setting exists: you can enter [3]/4 into the time signatures popover.


Thanks, didn’t know about that one.

And if the Team would kindly look at how Amadeus does it, all issues regarding beaming would be gone, forever, and, IMO, further strengthen Dorico as a notation software.
ba4. would generate the OP’s case, ba0 full bar beam, or ba<whatever> does whatever you want, in repeats, until the next ba command comes. It would be a simple signpost in Dorico, like time signatures.

Can you explain, or point to some documentation/presentation?

What does the number represent?

Sadly there is very little publicly documented about Amadeus. The manuals are very “hardcore” reference material and hard to understand. I have them somewhere as PDFs and can try to locate the specific topic.

That said, the ba-command is very easy to understand.

ba0 = full beam
basomething beams in “something” where something is the “duration value” or a list of “duration values”.

ba4,4,2 would beam quarter-quarter-half
ba4,2,4 would beam quarter-half-quarter
ba4.,16,2. would beam dotted fourth, 16th, dotted 2.

The “something” is then cyclic, meaning it would repeat itself until the next ba-command.

in 4/4 would not be needed since ba2 would suffice.
In the same way in 3/4
ba 4,4,4
is not needed as ba4 suffice.

As with time signatures in Dorico Amadeus can assign individual ba-commands to each stave, making it easy to beam differently against each other if that is wanted, just as you can have different time signatures in Dorico.

I could see this as a very useful function (with signpost) in Dorico.

The “plain” ba command in Amadeus cuts any beam (once) but I think Dorico’s “Split beam” is as good (if not better) as it would mean a lot of signposts (but they could be hidden naturally).

Further, a “sister command” in Amadeus to ba is “vocal” that cuts any beam to individual flags, e.g. for old-styled choral music.

So everything in the first quarter is beamed together, then everything in the 2nd quarter, then an entire half is beamed together?