What vast eternal long term steiny plan would reviving the Beat Calculator spoil?
I mean there must be one, there must have been a reason for removal in the first place,
If not then why do it?
Never seen an any official answer or explanation for it
All I`ve seen here is almost universal user dissapointment from the paying customers.
Just be patient everyone. Itāll be coming back as a new feature in Cubase 26!
Great replies guys.
So nice to know that Iām not alone.
None of the guys saying tap tempo is a good replacement for beat calculator know what theyāre talking about.
Steinberg, listen to the people who have been using this feature for years & stop trying to fix what aint broke.
i also support this thread , need to calculate a beat tempo by selecting range like in the old ābeat calculatorā that was removed.
tap tempo is not a replacement , only should have been an nice feature addition, and keep the ability to calculate tempo from range selection
Iāll add my support here for bringing back beat calculator
I saw the original posts for this when 13 launched and held off upgrading. But, I checked back here quick and saw it was apparently āSolvedā but, really feeling gas lit and ripped off to find that itās not even close.
I sent email to Greg Ondo to see if what I need is buried somewhere, of which fine if it is, but not understanding the choices made here by Steinberg and lack of clarity or care post launch on the matter.
Even in the first Cubase I had in the 90ās, well before Beat Calculator and even pre-VST. Getting bpm at any beat division on any Midi or Audio part was a few clicks and I didnāt have to fiddle with modes, tempo tracks nor tap like a chimp
STEINBERG Stuff, PLEASE, Return BEAT CALCULATOR. Thank you.
I canāt believe some of you are not moving to 13 because of this. You can still run 12 on your machine at same time if you really want. the solution I posted works and is very very close to being the same thing. tap tempo is not a replacement I agree, but in terms of aligning to free form tracks mentioned buy a user above, it does get your tempo in the ball park which makes it easier to tell cubase where the selection ends. It was no different with the beat calculator, (which yes I did prefer) you still had to know where the start and the end of what you wanted calculated were. The only difference with the method I posted is that youāre selecting the opposite of what youāre used to being the time line. I think of it as āI want the TIMELINE (as I select it from L to R) to match THIS eventā beit midi or audio etc.
once you get good at it, itās actually quicker for two reasons, 1 - you donāt need to count it out. 2 - the entire process can be key commanded, which means it can be PLEād which means it can become relatively automatic. make a keyboard shortcut for set tempo from event (and midi) and give it a shot for a week, youāll be surprised how quickly you adapt and thats coming from someone who I believe posted the very first rant about it, I believe that was me right @Martin.Jirsak ?
I donāt think anybody refuses to buy the update from 12 to 13 because of Beat Calculator.
There are other reasons, too. For me a big thing is the removal of undos for VST instruments. I am using this every session in Cubase 12.
Then it was the faulty graphical re-design for a while. (White font on white background for a selected track, anyoone?)
The dialogs have been changed from using OS routines to using Steinbergās own routines. The result is people complaining about bad functionality of dialogs.
Unfortunately the person in charge for writing the dialog routines came up with this when re-inventing their version of the wheel:
And thatās not all of it.
For me the advances of version 13 simply donāt outweight the sum of the disadvantages. Right now I would not use Cubase 13 if it were given to me for free. Your mileage may vary.
Yeah thatās fair enough.
The method is the same with midi you just choose the option a couple down in the menu, set tempo from midi event (this is not the same as the other āfrom midiā option which uses the actual blocks).
I work with non rhythmic audio all the time hence on my first post about this I said something like āthe film industry is going to flip out when they see thisā. Like I said, there is one very small difference which is the way you make the selection. The beat calculator which I used all the time as well, also required you to know where you were starting and where you wanted it to end, and as an additional step, you had to count that out and type it in as beats, arguably more time consuming than dragging the end of an event to a location, and selecting a hot key which is super quick.
As far as logic goes, trust me this will be the smallest of your problems, Iām also a logic user and wait until you try a film score on it, I encourage you to give it a go on a real project because I think youāll very quickly forget about the beat calculator. (And so many more weird things, but I still love logic as well).
I worked on some sessions with a guy from Melbourne I respect and it changed my view on the grid. The software now lets us keep the players natural groove but still have a grid and click to listen to. Unless itās wildly up and down, turn the click off and see if you can actually hear the difference. Depends on what you record I guess but Iāve for example after example of drum grooves where the grid has been set to it and then where the grid has been averaged over a length of time and flattened to one tempo, so then you have to edit the drums, so theyāre in time with a click sound thatās not going to be on the final version of the track, and it sounds processed and rubbish. No wonder the drummers hate us, they come in and absolutely nail take after take and because of a software thing, we quantise the poopies out of it and sound replace everything we chase our tails down the rabbit hole. 
But seriously thatās fair enough man, I do understand what youāre saying and it is annoying that a perfectly functioning tool which would have been one line of code was taken out for what reason I donāt know.
Yeah the film work Iāve done anyway had nothing to with any beats or time signatures. I swear it would have been easier to just give them drones and fX sounds and just let them put it where the noises happen.
BTW -
Will you believe me that I tried the method you posted? And that I did find it inferior to Beat Calculator in some ways?
Iām just in hopes some bigger named users have the same complaintā¦ I think the Dev team is not seeing that many of us use it simply as a reference tool for accuracy.
Personally, donāt really care if actually changes my project tempo etc. should it return, just want it to do the math.
There have obviously been significant changes within the Steinberg development environment and Iām sure they are being monitored carefully - Please keep your observations and requests/complaints coming . If they keep up the nonsense of change for the sake of change Iām sure they will quickly see that all the plausible deniability form certain key staff members will not positively effect customer retention nor sales growth - in the long term - good luck Steinberg. Many of us are watching very carefully and with all the choices out there now we will simply change DAW.
History does not reflect your hopes, unfortunately.
I think everyone needs to get a bloody grip frankly. Thereās small children dying all over the place ān poopies like that. Itās just a tempo track peopleā¦ The solution which Iāve explained a thousand times is literally the. Same. Thing.
1 you specify a length
2 you reference that length
3 you hit the ok button with your mouse.
It doesnāt matter how steps 1 or 2 are actually undertaken by the user, thatās your problem to manage. Youāll be ok, its all going to be fine.
No. Itās. Not.
I think there are people here that have never used the Beat Calculator answeringā¦
I used the tempo detection almost every day in my studio Until CUB12. My workflow was listening to my client playing the new song on the guitar and singing. I tapped the space key through the whole song and at the end weāve had the average tempo of the song for the Cubase project. I still canāt believe it was discontinued in CUB13 .I thought I was the clumsy one who couldnāt find it