Best tool for Bootleg/remix quantising/audio warping?

If I have a hip hop song that is 82pm and I want to bump it to 87.5 (175) what approach would folks take - that would be exclusively in Cubase 13? Numbers are just an example, it’s the intention of quantising to BPM that I am seeking.

This would be for bootlegging tracks for DJ mixes, and or adjusting stems.

Music mode doesn’t really cut it for me, It has worked well for like sample pack hits - but entire songs, vocals, and or long-takes, in my experience, has been insignificant. Same with time stretch, while musical mode can have moderately good input, it seems to be complexed by certain things - and or not competitive in 2025, never mind 2008.

Recycle by propellahead seemed to spank the behind of Steinberg for a few decades now with the manner in which it cut to transients and ran samples at the tempo that was input. Tempted to buy it but would ideally not have to many 3rd party things in the mix.

IMO I should just be able to set a bpm and quantise sensitivity and press a button, make easy edits with an interface design by common sense and user intuitiveness, and carry on. This is rarely my experience in Cubase for anything and I have found audio warp and that entire part of the software terrible.

Quite certain other DAWS excel at this stuff so curious if Cubase has anything competitive to date?

Open to hear about Cubase 14 tools too but either way I could ideally remove drums in Spectralayers and then time/warp.

very interesting statements - as you say, save yourself the headache and buy Recyle or use one of those other DAWS your refering to - if you had simply googled your question you would have come across numerous youtube videos showing you how to do this…

This word must have a different meaning to the one I thought I knew.

I haven’t used my copy of Ableton 9 for years … other than keeping it to hand for precisely this purpose. Drop a file into Live and it automatically warps it. Despite Cubase being my DAW of choice for the last 10 or 12 years I’ve never found a satisfactory (and speedy/efficient) way of doing this.

I guess Ableton has always been more of a beatmakers choice, but once I moved wholesale to Cubase I’ve personally never looked back … other than wishing I had this one tool at my disposal without firing up a relatively ancient DAW to make it happen.

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Most DJ scenes would refer this to an unofficial remix.

Modern times have zero honour in this regard and a remix or bootleg is now just original mix of someone sampling something they will most likely never be taken to court over, due to their being little money in sales, and court being very expensive.

Bootleg would be unofficial remix in my eyes and ears.

I guess it would just be expected for a four figure $ DAW. Or a DAW of 30 years. I have googled, and typically Steinberg are always behind on relevant tutorials, and or make them long winded personable experiences instead of clean cut, quick paces, up to date examples.

I tired asking that Greg O guy in a live stream and it was shocking the example he gave.

I bet if I googled it, I will quickly learn this is best done in other DAWS, as someone agrees with me, Ableton does this very intuatively. Perhaps is distils the quality in which I would imagine Cubase is better at preserving, it is only 2025 and this expectation can not be that hard.

based on the recent additions in 13 I’d say the development team at Steinberg need a good talking to, and or a re shuffle.

When I needed to learn how to do this I googled it, followed the simple instructions and was more than happy with the excellent results - I didn’t need anyone to agree with me.