Bug: Full ARA mode not working in 14.0.30

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Hi, i use Cubase 14 with Synthesizer V 2 Studio for my vocals in Full ARA mode, meaning i record my vocals in an audio track in CB then use the SV2 extension on the audio clip. This launches SV and I select a voice, then extract the notes and lyrics and make the necessary adjustments to the pitch and timing of the notes. Playback is synchronized between CB and SV. When I’m done I make the changes permanent in CB.

This all worked fine in 14.0.20 but in 14.0.30 the playback doesn’t play the notes/lyrics in SV. It just plays giberish. Making the changes permanent works however. I also tested this in Cakewalk and it all works fine. I don’t have any other plugin such as Melodyne that supports ARA so i can’t test with any other plugin.

There is a workaround in that i can use SV in ARA bridge mode which works fine, it just not as convenient.

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Working fine here, try toggling constrain compensation in cubase and see which works best while you work in Syn V, also turn off loop in both cubase and Syn v and see if you get good playback then.

As to other ARA Melodyne and Wavelab seem fine here.

Hippo.

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I’ve used both VocAlign Pro and Melodyne Studio in ARA mode in Cubase Pro 14.0.30 on Windows 10 with no issues.

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I installed VOCAlign and it works fine. The issue is with ARA and SynthesizerV. That being said SV ARA works fine in Cakewalk. So I’m not sure where the problem is.

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Difficult to help when no one here seems to have the problem.
Have you thought about going the other way and asking at dreamtronics ?
https://forum.dreamtonics.com/

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Yea i use that forum all the time. I thought i would try here first. Thanks for your help.

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Since @Hippo indicated SynthesizerV is working there, you had it working in 14.0.20, and you have it working in Cakewalk, I wonder if maybe there is something specific to the project. Have you tried it in a clean project, just for troubleshooting purposes? If it works there, then it may be time to try and figure out what is different about the project where you are having trouble.

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I have tried it on two different projects; one near completion and another clean project and same result. Good point though.

I did ask on Dreamtonics forum and someone with same config as me has said it is working but less stable, he has frequent crashes.

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Oh btw I’m using CB Artist, incase that makes a difference.

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So my problem has been solved. It turns out if i create a new Group track and route my SynthV vocal track (using ARA) to it (or to Stereo Out), the playback works. I guess the existing Group track affected SynthV somehow, or got corrupted.

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