Bug when deleting multiple articulations in an expression map (Cubase 15)

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Hello,

I would like to report a bug with the expression map editor in Cubase 15.0.20.

When I delete multiple articulations in a group at once (multiple selection with ctrl+click), other unselected articulations tend to be deleted instead or in addition to the ones I selected. Especially on a discrete selection.

Then, some assignements in the slots change randomly, here are 2 situations I encountered :

  • The articulation is different.
  • The assignement is deleted, but the articulation still exists in the articulation panel

Sometimes, an assigned articulation is completely deleted both in the slot and the articulation panel, even when the articulation is in another group than the articulations I deleted manually.

Another issue that may be related : on maps created before Cubase 15, some articulation were automatically recgnized (legato, staccato, tenuto, marcato…). However when I edit the slot assignements (to add complementary articulations for instance), new versions of these already recognized articulations are created in the articulation panel. (Note : they are exactly the same, coming from the liste natively supported by Cubase).

It forces me to delete the double, leading the the first issue described above.

I believe both behaviors are bugs, and I hope a fix may be worked out. Thanks in advance to Steinberg for looking at it.

Also If anyone has a clue here, why aren’t newly created articulations shared across all maps? I can’t understand the design here, that we have to recreate custom articulations for each map that uses it. A shared library (as in Dorico) would be far better in my opinion.

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Hi,
I can confirm that multi-select and delete does not work correctly in the Expression Map editor Articulation window.
Weird behavior.
Selecting all articulations in a group then delete removes none but changes some Soundslots
Selecting a few can delete with other odd results

thanks
Cubase 15.0.21 Win10

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There seems to be an issue here where if the direction vs attribute value does not exactly match the original, it creates a duplicate. I usually leave the out of the box articulations at the default (if they were a direction I leave them as that if they are an attribute I leave them as that) so I hadn’t encountered this.

I did find an issue early on in Cubase 15 where if the text or symbol of an articulation was changed it would also create a duplicate. That was fixed when I reported it, but this seems to be a variation on that.

Until it is fixed, you can probably prevent it by temporarily changing the articulation back to direction if it was originally direction or attribute if it was originally attribute, then add the new slots that use it (and it shouldn’t create a duplicate), and then changing it back to what you want after adding the new technique combinations.