C-12 Pro: Simple Way to Make "Sample VST" from Hardware Synth?

(Please Note: If you have experience with older Korg synth/music workstations, I welcome your input but that experience isn’t necessary since this can be done with any hardware keyboard.)

So here is the situation:

Thirty years ago I got my very first synth – a Korg 01/W-FD, pre-any-DAW, and due to various life circumstance, I only have what was recorded on a cassette tape of the 2 tracks (+ 1 drum) composition on its sequencer. So I have digitized and done some EQ and such that single audio .wav, but it’s obviously not production material.

Back then I also didn’t know how to and so didn’t tweak the combi
or program (sound banks) - so I used the factory ones.

I’ve re-created the composition as MIDI tracks in Cubase and have tried to duplicate the core sound banks using native Cubase VSTi and other means, but it’s just not working. So I’m planning to rent an O1/W for a couple of days, find the original sound banks and use the MIDI tracks to record them in Cubase as audio tracks. Easy enough.

BUT…

I’d like to have access to those sounds after I return the rental = create a sampler VST (or whatever the actual term is) in Cubase so I can use those sound banks without the O1/W. For example, if I want to change a note or chord in a recorded track after I no longer have the O1/W.

Since I’m a total newbie to sampling, my idea is to physically record at least 4 octaves note by note at 127 velocity and identical length with no other CC of each sound bank. Which may or may not be how it’s done.

I know there are videos on YouTube on how to create this and there is most likely more than one way to do it, but I need something as simple as possible - my 68 y.o. brain just isn’t what it once was.

Thanks.

Hi,

There is (or are) dedicated software for this task. The one I know is named SampleRobot. I believe this is what you are searching for.

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Samplit, SampleRobot and ExtremeSampleConverter

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Thanks for all your replies. So there is nothing within Cubase that can do this? I’ve seen a couple of videos by Dom using Padshop to take an audio sample and tweak it, but not sure it would be either easy or the same thing as what you suggested.

You could

  1. Create a MIDI Part that would play each Note for however long you like max. Make sure to include some silence between each Note
  2. Use the MIDI Part to play your Korg and record the results as a regular Audio Track/File.
  3. Take this Audio File and load it onto a Cubase Sampler Track
  4. The Sampler Track will let you set ‘markers’ for each Note and automap them to MIDI Note Numbers
  5. Now you can just play them like any VSTi.

I’m not at my DAW so my description probably has some wrong jargon. This is one of those tasks that sounds more complicated to explain than it is to actually do.

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Not quite the same but Korg do have a M1 VST you can buy, the O1 is based on the same technology and with improvements on the M1, but it might be close?

I’ve downloaded and tried out the MI Korg VST, but the trial version is really hard to go through - 20 min. limit sessions. I ended giving up. And as you stated, similar, earlier tech that preceded the O1/W, but without the same overall sound presence/width (I don’t know the actual term for how they did that). I tend to want and use lusher, wide-angle pads.

I’m still stubbornly trying to duplicate the sound so the jury is out on if I’m going to sink USD $150 for a week of having the O1/WD (they gave me a decent price all things considered),

Hi,

The Korg M1 plug-in was amazing for me in that time (I haven’t owned the hardware ever). But nowadays, it’s very old one and it might not work properly (I’m afraid it’s still VST2, so no compatibility with M1/M2 Mac).

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@raino - Thanks for that. Something feasible and simple. And useful whether or not I ultimately decide to rent the O1/W or not.

@Martin.Jirsak that’s very false information.
First, of all they’re not old, they get constantly updated and new synths added to the collection.
second, I have complete Korg software collection and they work without any issues on M1 Max MacBook both in VST3 and AUv3 “modes” and both natively and thru rosetta

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Hi @ensoniq_ts10 ,

Thank you very much for the information! I was using these plug-ins more than 10 years ago. I stopped, because they were not updated anymore at that time.

Probably Korg comes back to these plug-ins again. I’m glad to hear this, thank you!