Since C15 ruins all my scores, I have been going back to versions only saved in C13 that weren’t ruined. but now I came across a score with an unsolved problem there. I had forgotten because I had called about it and then never solved or heard anything. It was printing a full score with all the instruments, and then I noticed that M7 & 8 had only the first track, then other tracks are back at 9&10 and 11 & 12 are only one track, and so on throughout.
So I decided to see if C15 had the same problem, but it was such a mess with grand staffs for single line instruments, and some tracks of the full score on the next page and so on, so much wasted space and realizing I have to read the whole manual to be able to do anything that was so easy before, and capabilities removed or made more difficult as seems to be the rule now -leave to the automatons.
but as I read through, can someone perhaps tell me what these big boxes with numbers taking up space are?
OK this scoring is unbelievably stupid and unworkable. I have a bunch of measures where I want this note on the staff below, 3 in a chord. I set up to only be 2 voices, 1 &2, top and bottom staff. I can only select one note at a time. I tried selecting several by dragging.
I assigned the note to 2, and it moved below to the desired position. I do the same with other measures with the same part and note. then I do another and the earlier ones jump back. I’ve tried 2 ways, previously it had default of 2 voices on each, so like tenor 2 instead of just tenor, then I used the voice box with numbers instead. either way it keeps undoing and so they go back to this.
This was all set up in C13 where you could just select notes of a pitch by dragging and right click and tell to go to voice 2 and they all went. This doesn’t ruin just drum scores as in my other posts but ruins and sets back all previous work, where all were easily interpreted for the hands as:
I think you’re using voices the wrong way. You don’t need a voice per staff. Select the note and go into the Score menu, then Cross Staff, then Move to Staff Below or Move to Staff Above depending on what direction.
You only need to add voices if you have two independent parts on the same staff at the same time (ex. one upstem note and one downstem note at the same time on the upper staff).
I got up to page 71 in the score manual and haven’t reached that section yet, but yes that is exactly what I need to do. Should get to it today.
After mostly dealing with getting the drum score as close to what I wanted, I continued and got to page 109 on moving notes between staffs and got the result below. there is only one voice for each staff, but if I choose no voices, then I got a blank staff. The problem voice is called tenor. Still thinks it belongs above.
I believe you did a “cross to staff below” instead of “move to staff below”.
I can see that this is so. P109 manual. so then I read further, and find:
I see a lot about this and then it goes on moving notes rhythymically. but these were not moved manually by LE, C15 assigned them thus, not me. So is there going to be something further on about changing automatically assigned notes (that were correct in C13), tired for the night and retiring at 1am.
Finally arrived at page 146, in my reading the whole score manual and found how to move thus, and looking as intended (as back in C13).
So going to another project, and though I saw you could export layouts, doing so with the full score and importing actually brought the parts as well. So I actually have to reset the page margins, staves, instruments, everything etc. on every project. Single melody is Grand Staff, etc. Starting from scratch and nothing can be transferred, though I have the same instruments and want the same setups?
At the moment yes, but of course you can make a project template in Cubase that has all of these things already set and make a bunch of projects from this template. This of course only helps you if you’re making new projects, not if you’re trying to apply these settings to old already existing ones.
I have about 10 songs pretty much complete that I wanted to send scores to the copyright office and this is holding me up. Lots of other unfinished projects needing more work that I need to get to before my time is up.
Unbelievable what I have to do to get a score drum map. So in this project, to correct the score with all the wrong notes and maybe heads I have to click on each note, and look at its pitch, then go to the drum editor to verify the right one (which may not even be shown in C13 as it doesn’t show the entire list anymore). I may have a complete list in the map as in picture one, but as soon as I change any notehead or position it changes to the 2nd picture, where only a few drums are shown. I have to close the drum map and reopen to see all again, and if I changed the position but need to change the notehead also, this action will have to be repeated. After doing so the drum I just picked will likely be dropped from the list, though it may show correctly on the score. I usually have to change the instrument in that panel as it may indicate hihat when it is a tom, etc. this has to be done for every drum.
Note that both are set to GM. If I change, as I did before, then they will also play the wrong sounds and I will have to start all over again. After about 2 hours, I was able to get it almost right, but one bass drum is on E3 when it is set at D3. Efforts to change have failed. Incredibly stupid how much harder C15 made this from C13, where I had the score right. (but wasn’t finished with the project completely)
Initially that measure looked like this, so everything had to be changed -throughout.
On a 2nd project, why are single melody lines put as grand staff and when I go to score settings, it shows full score and I can’t choose part?
It is not that they purposely made some of these things more difficult, but the score editor is Dorico code, and it has an advanced percussion system that has evolved to be a fair bit different from the one in Cubase. It is like this in some other ways too, a bunch of square-peg-round-hole types of situations. The integration has been gradually improving, but it takes some time due to the differences in the two systems as they gradually bring them closer together.
